Game programming, music visualizers solve the problem "Make something people want".
> What about using programming languages for the challenge of it (brainfuck, whitespace, etc)?
I think this is one reason lots of programmers get into a rut where they only want to use a specific language and get depressed using anything else. Using a programming language for the challenge of it is good fun, but it's not really a worthwhile use of effort often.
I agree, 'programmer' has many definitions, but at the end of the day, we "program" to make a product that we or others can use. How that product is made and what tools were used isn't that important. It's the fact it's made at all that matters.
> What about using programming languages for the challenge of it (brainfuck, whitespace, etc)?
I think this is one reason lots of programmers get into a rut where they only want to use a specific language and get depressed using anything else. Using a programming language for the challenge of it is good fun, but it's not really a worthwhile use of effort often.
I agree, 'programmer' has many definitions, but at the end of the day, we "program" to make a product that we or others can use. How that product is made and what tools were used isn't that important. It's the fact it's made at all that matters.