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It feels you're taking the least charitable interoperation of what I'm trying to say.

I believe trans women are "real women" in just about every way that matters. I only make an exception when I absolutely have to. For example, in sports, or in a medical context.

It might help to remember the word "women" is just a label we assign to people who share a certain common set of social and biological traits. And the majority of these traits trans women share, however in the case of trans women there are some exceptions. But it's not just trans people who don't fit cleanly into these groups, there are similar difficulties to be had with intersex people for example.

There are no easy answers here. Life isn't black and white. It's silly to think we can cleanly divide the whole of society into to clear categories.



I think you mean well, but are maybe a little out of touch with how things have changed in the last few years. Wikipedia does a good job of analyzing this topic: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

The way I read it is that it's taken over 50 years for "gender" and "sex" to become different things. It's still a word that's transitioning (ok, some pun intended), but essentially we're past the tipping point now and you'll offend people if you use gender words incorrectly.

The WHO has the progressive definition that you want to be using: https://www.who.int/gender-equity-rights/understanding/gende...

This is in contrast with the dictionary definition from Google, which still uses biological sex: https://www.google.com/search?q=define+gender

It does feel a little bit like when "literally" changed meaning to "figuratively", but this distinction is really important to an ever growing group of people.

It's also worth noting that it applies to gender words like "man" or "woman" which are different than sex words like "male" and "female".

I still don't understand how non-binary people fit into this, but if you embrace the "singular they", you'll probably not offend anyone.




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