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That's actually the same point the parent comment by thriftwy was making. The two of you are not in disagreement.

But as for your argument, didn't you just list notable alternatives for most Google products? To the extent that the competitors may be less attractive (though plenty of people say they prefer iOS, Bing, DDG, etc.), that just emphasizes how useful Google's products are. Most of them can even be used without a Google account, too.

It's strange to talk about the value Google services contribute as a bad thing. If you want to argue that value is still not worth the data they collect, that's a separate matter (and one that is logically at odds with arguing how great Google's utility is).



Oh, wow, I indeed misread the parent comment completely. My bad!

> Most of them can even be used without a Google account, too.

Sure, but that doesn't take away any tracking as far as I know. Perhaps on paper in certain jurisdictions, but I doubt it truly is thrown away.

> It's strange to talk about the value Google services contribute as a bad thing.

The value they provide is not a bad thing, it's how they monetize it. I think I am misinterpreting what you mean here, though.




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