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If this is really ‘open’, how we can access submitted data?

Otherwise comments here about this project funded by competitor is making this a bit fishy.



1. date is not open yet, first people have to request the data (will take probalby 4-6 weeks until they get the credit scores)

2. see below https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16391885


If it will be open there is no problem at all.


Is Bertelsmann a competitor?

Nevermind, just read it below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvato


btw. we are requestion infoscore aka Bertelsmann - data see stats https://okfn.de/blog/2018/02/openschufa-english/#update


Why don't they just deliver them to you? I'm sorry but this is highly sensible data and the "where does the money come from" caution is the first line of defense a normal user has. Most of the time it is the only one.

Partnering with Bertelsmann here was a huge mistake. It questions not only data security it questions this first line of defense.

Think about it, how am I supposed to tell somebody to give their data to you when I already told them to look for the money first? I'd make myself and my methods unbelievable, incoherent and probably corrupted.

This is really terrible because this research is necessary and important but I hope you understand that I will neither support it nor recommend it...


we, the OKFDE, have no partnership with Bertelsmann our partner, algorithmwatch, has - independently from this project - funding from Bertelsmann Stiftung

again the data is first delivered only to the user, afterwards he/she can decide what to do

glad we agree that the issue is important




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