and where are those companies today?

And why does it matter? Apple just ripped off their design, period.

It matters because it took Apple to show the world how to do it properly.

No they didn't. What they did is show the world how to create a marketing campaign.

They took it to the point when people thought that Apple invented 3g when iPhone 3g went out, when it was on market for almost 10 years, and it was an update to what everyone else had already.

iPhone was way behind Symbian and Windows mobile at date of launch.

It didn't even have multitasking...

Also, use some arguments instead of switching topic every reply.

You accuse me of switching topic and then go and talk about 3g, how about practice what you preach?

Thank you for making my point I, you can do all the marketing you want but in the end you cannot sell a shitty product which Symbian and Windows Mobile learnt the hard way.

Apple succeeded because the user experience worked.

No, they succeeded because of aggressive marketing campaign, an example of which I provided.

Neither Symbian, nor WP phones had such campaigns, and this is why they got beaten by inferior product.

Why do you think Macs stopped selling when Jobs was gone, while ux didn't change?

Apples user experience is so bad, that there literally are paid Mac apps that fix their flaws. And they sell.

There are no iOS ones, since you cannot customize anything besides wallpaper and ringtone there, everything locked.

I bet you did not even have top tier phone other than iPhone in your hands, cause you'd admit it yourself.

Haha looks like you are rabid Apple hater.

You have been so blinded by your hate for Apple that you cannot even accept that all the companies which you mentioned (you forgot to mention Blackberry) could not adapt to a new revolutionary interface. They were so stuck in the past that they refused to move.

> There are no iOS ones, since you cannot customize anything besides wallpaper and ringtone there, everything locked

Hahah that is the Apple way, you have to live in the walled garden, normal people like that. Of Course you won't understand this point.

I think I finally understood why you dont get it, you are looking at this from your selfish perspective, you are not thinking from the average consumer's perspective. Once you see that you will understand why you are wrong.

Let me know if you dont understand I will help you out.

You are wrong again, how many times have you been wrong. I do have top tier Android phone as well.

What did you say about personal attacks? Did you just ran out of arguments?

I showed you that there was nothing revolutionary in first iPhone interface. It was copied from others. I even showed you what they ripped off. Yet you blindly blabber about how they invented it.

Your fanboy mind can't comprehend that, maybe cause you did not see background of iPhone evolution.

I understand that people will not buy best performing phone, rather one that is trendy.

And I stated once and again, apple is 99% marketing. They can make phone trendy.

Just admit it already. You have no arguments besides marketing sells phones. Whopping 12% of phones. If their marketing didn't manage to make it a status symbol a while ago, nobody would bother with such minority.

Go on, attack me again, or repeat your revolutionary ripped off user experience again ;)

I must be the first Apple fanboy who actively uses Windows and Android.

I guess we will agree to disagree, you want to support dinosaurs with revolutionary interface like using a stylus and physical keyboards on a mobile while I don't.

This was a fun conversation but I am not going to reply anymore to a troll :)

Well as usual, LG Prada had capacitive touchscreen = no stylus and keyboard first. Just to straighten out your false fact for last time.

As homework find something that apple actually invented for once.

Goodnight ;)