Agreed, I was just trying to say that currently, one of the most popular investment theses for Bitcoin is "Gold for millennials", not "anonymous paypal" or "decentralised stripe".
A post [1] shared a couple of days ago made a thesis that BTC price needs to grow for it to become a viable "store of value." Maybe this is what we are seeing.
"Market cap size is critical for adoption of a store of value. It needs to be large enough to “fit” even very large amounts of fiat, ideally without affecting the market. Gold market cap is estimated at 7 trillion USD, which means that even the richest people can move all their assets into gold and not move the market. (At least one at a time. All of them at once will move the market big time).
Bitcoin market cap of about 70B USD is not large enough for even one of the richest people on the planet. This implies that if the market cap does not grow, Bitcoin is likely to fail as store of value."
Ultimately that's true of any non-backed currency (and those too I suppose) isn't it, it's just the bet looks far safer for a country/region wide fiat currency.
I wonder if much of the medium term success of Bitcoin has been because the money put in couldn't be laundered readily in any other way, so whilst Bitcoin is a relatively high risk the alternative was just to dump the money without a way to use it?
Most currencies suffer from inflation: it's more interesting to buy now than later because your wealth will go down with time.
BTC with its fixed supply works the opposite direction, devoid of inflation: you'd rather keep your BTC as a store of value that will increase, than spend it on goods you can still buy later for fewer BTC.
Technically yes, you are treating it as a property rather than currency. Such a property is subject to positive and negative externalities (notably, inflation/deflation), and (where applicable) it is subject to taxation on transference (eg: inheritance tax, gift tax, etc).
From a purely economic perspective, cash is just another liquid asset. The distance from currency to store of value is quite short.
Physical assets are generally regarded as stores of value, however, in modern times, currency stability has resulted in currency supplanting durable goods as the primary store of value.
Even holding it in a bank for low interest is investing. Using it as a store of value would be keeping it in your wallet or in a safe (as you would do with gold, for example).
Not really....not at these rates anyways. There isn’t much difference between putting your money in the bank or under your mattress, well, except for convenience and safety issues.
Yes, it is. If you keep the money physically it yields exactly zero and nobody is using it. If you lend the money (to a bank or someone else) you get some interest (or not, in some countries interest rates are negative) AND there is someone else who can use that money. Bank deposits are fundamentally different from “hoarding” gold or bitcoins.
Sure, but the banks don’t thank us much for the pleasure. Money, gold, bitcoins aren’t themselves stores of value, merely IOUs. To really store value (I.e. production), you need things like grain silos.
I think I do not understand. If I possess a certain amount of currency, is it not my property?
And why would it matter what's the "intended" usage of it? Who determines intent? Might every holder of the asset/currency/property (whatever one calls it) have different intentions for it?
In some ways we all are but I think we are forgetting the most important aspect. Using it for payments. That utility use case is more important because at some point the price will go down
But if you use it as a currency you exchange money for bitcoin as soon as possible and use it when required. Money is always increasing so you try to earn more.