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> Jones got pregnant at 14 after what she called non-consensual sex with a high-school senior.

Why minimize? Sounds like rape.



It may be difficult for her to talk about.


That's the presentation by the journalist, not a quote.


the bit you quote above does say "what she called", which seems to indicate it's an indirect quote.


"What she called" is the minimization that I object to.


She murdered a 4 year old child. Kept it secret for a period of time (two years).

Hid the body and mislead police on it's location to confuse them.

To this day it has not been found (One assumes because she is still keeping it hidden)

Also her boyfriend (the high-school senior) has never been charged with rape (and had custody of the child until he was 3 so one assumes no allegations were made back then)

But assuming it's true, she was the one who had 'non-consensual sex' so if she wants to call it that, that's her choice.

What right do you have to force her to chose the language of something that happened to her to conform to your politics?


You misunderstand me. I objected to the minimization of the rape. The "what she calls" language.


I think you are being political on the back of an awful incident / world.

And distracting from the important point, once a person does their time, society should also move on.

But to spell it out -

She has to stick to her story of all the awful things that happened to her (which I'm sure most did). But you can't just take it all at exact value.

If the story says it was rape (which is now a militarized word which is what you're trying for), it effects a real person's life, who possibly has a family.

If she's under playing it, it could be because she doesn't want to harm them, for many reasons. For instance it's not true.

I assume both parties were under age, so neither consented in some ways. And given the possibility of drugs etc who knows what really happened. They seemed to have had a further relationship. Everything seemed messed up in her life.

It wasn't "What she calls" it was "What she called", it's a quote and it seems to me the writer is helping her out.

She chose that phrasing, whatever happened to her when she was 14, happened to her. If she chooses it, it's her choice for her reasons, not yours.


A "high school senior" would have been at least 17, but given the academic environment was probably 19 or 20. So, he was more capable of consent than she was at 14.




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