Very much this. I don't pretend to be a dev, but I listen and work with them to accomplish business goals. Sysadmin work is very much more business management oriented in the real world, but to see so many Devs say "I know how to admin my software in prod therefore I am sysadmin too" just makes me realize just how little the Hn/sv web startup dev knows about real world business systems administration for established business.

Once again, like I said in my other comment, even in web startup land, this is a failure of management, in particular CIOs and CTOs, and the management that selects them.

The problem is that companies can usually manage to survive for quite a while ignoring these problems. There is little short-term feedback mechanism for duct taped systems... Until that day when shit starts dying and no one can fix it. Or a cryptovariant hits the file server. Etc.