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Consider an edit to your post since it’s at the top?


Can't edit after like 10 minutes, unfortunately.


If someone makes you an offer and you say, "no" and they walk away, that isn't predatory.


If you offer someone with the expectation they can't say no, that is in fact predatory. Many of these people have been loongg without work, I doubt they didn't expect people to bite thinking this is their big Hollywood break.

I can offer a bum $1000 to stab a guy for YouTube, but if he happens to say no and walks away, that's not predatory? I know it's a stretch, but that is the core argument you are making


> If you offer someone with the expectation they can't say no, that is in fact predatory.

In the absence of coercion or fraud, the offering party's expectations are irrelevant.


its absolutely relevant...intent is everything. I mean, we're talking the core definition of the word, 'Predatory', exploiting others.


It is if those are the only kinds of jobs available for people with lower levels of experience.


What about predatory lending? Are payday loans not predatory?


Ok, why don't you make a test and sell it at cost?


Corporations are not people.


Allowing the price to move up with market demand will encourage increases in production. It just takes some time, especially in a pandemic, for the production to catch up.


Which might be fine for things like web cams but for critically and immediately needed sanitation products, it proves a fatal flaw in markets. The reward for quickly buying up commodities and reselling them at enormous markup always out weighs stockpiling them for years and potentially never selling them at the same mark up.

Not to mention destructive hysterical hoarding. There is someone in this thread who noticed an extreme shortage in webcams so when only two were left in a shop, he bought both.


People are hoarding, because they are not rationing. They are not rationing, because prices are too low. Prices are too low, because it is either illegal or retailers would rather have a shortage than tarnish their brand. If you allow prices to rise, then we will see both an increase of supply and increased rationing by the population.


People started hoarding out of hysteria. Which creates shortages for no reason. Which drives the prices up for no reason. Which benefits and encourages hoarding. Which encourages yet more hoarding out of speculation.

Which means resources needed at this instant are instead sitting idle, at best awaiting higher prices at some arbitrary future date. And earnings, rather than going to producers, are wasted on pointlessly destructive arbitrage. So in crisis, the market has led us into a soviet style toilet paper shortages for no reason. Not to mention far more important critical supplies.


@TomMckenny, is there a resource that speaks to this economic theory of yours? Because the sources I cited here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22815572 reflects mainstream economic theory and what I have learned in my economic courses at university.


Mainstream economics understands the flaws in markets such as panics, run on banks, imperfect information, monopolies, cost to enter a market, lag in ramping up production, transportation time and bubbles. All of which are at play at the moment.

I can't know what was said in your classes. Assuming no control on prices in a crisis, did they say how holding a large stockpile of a rarely needed item for the long term with it's associated storage cost and risk is in some way more profitable than simply cornering the local market on the commodity at the time it is needed and indeed helping those prices rise rather than fall? In honesty, that may be a hidden assumption against price gouging more than an ideal market example used in a classroom.

At any rate, few if any mainstream economists suggests that sudden monopolization of emergency commodities that are needed immediately but briefly during a crisis would be remotely a good thing. It is more a Cato institute / libertarian position driven by ideology rather than real world data and history which consistently refute it. It is also why no sane society allows it in emergencies on crucial goods.

As if to prove the point, the theory has just been tested yet again: there are no world wide government price caps on toilet paper and yet there is an enduring shortage at the moment.

If interested in this, here is a Nobel prize winning economist writing right now on the issue:

https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1246431163050266624


Indeed. Hopefully he didn't mean "fun distraction" in a positive way and was trying to convey it was interesting to watch develop. Especially considering he has friends in the area.

> in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan


Yeah uh, poor choice of words on my part, I guess that's why I'm not a writer. I have a bad tendency to use "fun" as "interesting" rather than "enjoyable", should probably be more careful about that..


> I do wonder why "working the fields" cannot be made a good job for humans?

You'll get your answer by working in the fields for a few weeks.


Loved it. :)


How can the infrastructure be built for free? Volunteer labor and donated capital?


He means without subsidizing from the government. EPB would cover the CapEx


EPB is owned by the government of Chattanooga, TN.


But makes a profit and would fund the expansion with its own money, not tax payers'.


My takeaway from this is that Comcast and AT&T will be paid $45m by the government to develop the infrastructure.

Whilst this EPB company will invest their own money for the infrastructure.


Canada welcomes everyone* with wide, egalitarian arms - regardless of age, race, gender, identity, etc.

* excluding the disabled: http://www.ccdonline.ca/en/socialpolicy/immigration


I'd like to read it - post the link here when you're done!


And when we say a lifetime of memories, we really mean it. With Google Photos, you can now backup and store unlimited, high-quality photos and videos, for free.

In Google parlance, a (free product) lifetime is somewhere between 2 - 7 years.

<edit to add>

Looks like the unlimited free storage is for high quality, but not original, versions of the images and videos. Original quality is subject to storage limits/pricing:

https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6220791?p=storage&r...

With some sort of revenue, maybe this product will be sustainable.


I believe that page is outdated as of today. Until now, G+ stored pictures up to 2000px for free. As of today, photos of up to 16 megapixels may be stored for free.


But they can recompress it according to the help pages. If you want to store the originals, it's counted towards your space.


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