> half the price of S3

No one other than hobbyists is paying full price on AWS.

Maybe someone else somewhere is getting some unbelievably sweet deal but what I've seen from cloud discounting is more in the "single digit percentage" range than "2/3rds off" or something.

There are a ton of different discount options - large customers typically get between 50-60% discount based on committed spending, and AWS is pretty flexible around how that commit lands (they will allow roll overs even if they say they won't). Reserved instances get you ~70% discounts - similar to the committed spending. And my favorite - if it works for you - spot instances on EC2 come at as high as 90% off.

Nobody at commercial volume pays list to AWS - everyone gets a discount.

How about S3? I haven’t personally seen them price that so aggressively but I have a limited sample set.

You can sometimes get a committed use discount within certain regions. Not as extreme as the EC2 discount, since S3 storage costs are honestly pretty low when you use storage classes correctly.

Everywhere I've worked discounts have been 40-60%. If you're getting leas than 40% whoever manages your cloud account isn't doing one of their job duties.

Even 1/3 of the AWS egress list price is a rip-off.

How to not pay full price on AWS? We pay $10K+ per month and nobody gives us any discount.

You talk to your account rep to do a guaranteed spend in exchange for a discount.

Some services get large discounts, some don’t. Depends on utilization. For 10k you should get a lot.

To be fair, for aws that is hobbyist numbers. We (400 people data company) pay 10 times that amount. Let alone big enterprises.

We do get discount, but it wont make it cheap.

There’s a lot of middleground between hobbyists and your company’s use ;) Most mid-sized publishers I’ve worked with are in the $4-10k/mo range depending on CDN availability

Of course, I agree.

My point is that the parent I was replying to replied to “only hobbyists pay full price on aws”. The parent was expecting to get a discount on a 10k monthly bill. It is a lot of money, but not to AWS. You probably wont get (much) discount on 10k a month.

upthread: "[No one] pays full price"

later: "no one who spends more than $10k/month pays full price"

curious, that no one says what their bills are when they say "40-60% discount", right? This thread started because someone mentioned dell/netapp because they were half the price of AWS, all-in.

I notice a lot of threads do this, lately. Not this topic, but topics in general.

What kind of hobby do you have where you’re spending $10k/month?

I see you've never heard of Warhammer 40k

I see you haven't heard of SLA printers

Holy shit, it's brutal. What do you sell and how many customers do you have?

Savings plans and reserved instances will get you at least 50% off EC2, RDS, and some other things

The good discounts start around 100x your spend.

If you are comfortable with making a commit 1-3 year commit - you can get 27-50% discounts at pretty much any spend I think.

https://aws.amazon.com/savingsplans/compute-pricing/

Right, but depending on your workload, compute might just be 1/3 to 1/2 of your spend. The remainder going on storage, networking (egress and internal between regions & AZs), LBs, and higher abstraction services (from queues to search to serverless).

Feels great to talk about 27-50% but turns out it's 9%-16% when all is said and done. You can get commitment savings on other services but you need higher spend.

Feels odd that big cloud gives better discounts to enterprise. They really don't cater to startups as much as they posture.

You pay $1 million per month for AWS?

At previous $WORK we had similar bills. Our Account Manager got us some deals on S3 storage and egress fee (via CloudFront), in exchange for some usage commitment. It was AWS Europe though, it may be different in the US.

I guess it's a good thing I'm not talking about list price. Do you really think when you're doing a cost comparison of AWS S3 to NetApp or Dell object storage a fortune 500 says: go ahead and use list pricing for the comparison? We plug in their existing discount structure... because otherwise it would be a rather pointless exercise for everyone involved.

Agreed and for most smaller use cases theres always b2 from Backblaze.

Is anyone getting discounts on S3? There's easy ways to save on compute like reserved instances but I haven't found anything for storage other than the tiering system.

That, in itself, should be plenty of reason to stay the hell away from it.

Or Amazon owning the Washington Post.

Amazon doesn't own the Washington Post. Jeff Bezos does. I'm not sure if this makes the situation worse or better.

Or journalists everywhere shaping stories to their own biases.

almost like ... journalistic integrity and ... maybe less monopoly ... are good things

that is not the same.

Sure they are. They’re both just people using whatever power they have to shape the narrative.

on the one hand you have the owner dictating his political bias to all his employees/journalists. on the other hand you have a person/journalist interpreting reality through their own political bias. what's the difference? in the first case the medium would only report biased in one direction, in the second case it'd report roughly split around the percentages of the (journalistic) population, e.g. 60% this, 40% that.

The East Wing is less than 100 years old. The White House is a living building in the same way that the Constitution a living document.

ok so only 100 years of precedent. Because really what did the US accomplish in the last 100 years?

Damn near bankrupted itself with tariff's that spawned a global depression, then Steven Bradbury'd itself to the head of the world order on the coat tails of the World War(s) cluster fuck?

I think you are missing a few things. Saved the world from fascism for one.

Waited to the last minute to pick a side, after a few million Russians cut the Germans in half, you mean?

Maybe "saved facism, on ICE, for the world, in order to bring it back later".

Fun thing about history, so many varied perspectives from different PoV's.

Here's hoping that doesn't happen, but the view from 3000 might look different.

The Child Tax Credit is mostly refundable.

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/individuals/refundabl...

Has Elon taken down one of the five major accounting firms?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal

Do we want this hostage negotiation?

Technically it’s 60 votes for cloture, to end debate and allow the vote. The vote is still by majority, and Senators can vote for cloture but against the bill.

And technically they only need a majority to change that rule. But Republicans are downright giddy about the shutdown.

Adelita Grijalva is the newly elected representative from Arizona.

Note that the idea of a shutdown did not exist until the last four days of the Carter administration in 1981.

Raising taxes does not solve the problem of getting the money out to the right people.

The right people? I just don't think CA, which has the fourth largest GDP in the world, is trying to target the likes of OpenAI for a measley fucking 10k.