Yeah, they're so uncompetitive that Trump had to introduce tariffs to keep them out. China is a different topic, but I wouldn't generally call German products uncompetitive...
The tariffs put on the US by Germany were higher than the other way around in some cases, even though the US wasn’t exporting such products in any significant amount.
Anthropic and OpenAI took your data, trained their model, and tell you "we are not going to tell you anything how we trained our models, we are not giving your the weights our models, you will have to pay us to access the model trained from your data".
they took your rights and your data.
Chinese labs took your data, trained their model, and tell you "this paper details how our models are trained using your data, here is the final weights of our model trained from your data, feel free to use it for what you want, it is your model trained on your data".
they converted your data, everything is still in your hand under your control.
you couldn't see the difference?
Your specific question can actually be translated as -
1. why people don't stop Chinese labs so US monopoly can be maintained?
2. why people don't stop Chinese labs providing free models to those who would otherwise never be able to afford the same $200 USD/month Anthropic and OpenAI subscriptions.
3. why people don't complain Chinese labs publishing those trillion dollar secret ideas on model training.
well, because most people are not dickhead I guess?
Hold up. Look, this is all shades of grey but saying Chinese labs all release open weights stuff is kinda crazy thing to say.
Right now they are doing that because they are still trying to catch up to Anthropic, Google, and OpenAI.
The moment they have the special sauce, they will shut it down and you won't be able to run their stuff anymore outside of them. Why do I say that? We already have the evidence in the diffusion model arena. All the chinese labs were pumping out open weights models for image and video, the moment they got to SOTA, they stopped doing it. Less and less is being released.
Chinese companies aren't doing open weights models out of the goodness of their hearts, they are doing it because it help their entire industry catch up. Don't get it twisted, this is very much a US vs China battle here. China wants to win and I am not sure how they won't. Deepseek is the first major large model trained on Huawei chips. It won't be the last and I am betting that China will make up for lesser performance of those chips with more manufacturing and power generation.
I am very bullish on China winning the AI war here. But I also am not naive enough to think that the Chinese companies is doing open weights out of wanting to make the world a better place or the goodness of their hearts. It undercuts the american AI companies.
I agree that benchmarks are inherently subjective.
but the fact that you cite your brief as your main argument is funny - you don't even have any inherently subjective numbers to justify what you believe, you only have "I don't believe".
Sure, I have mixed up two things together. I don't think this benchmark is bad, I just did not like it is presented as the ultimate objective truth. The other thing I have mentioned is that it delivers different results from other benchmarks, so the "believe" stems from other benchmarks.
> Democracy is the idea that people should control their government.
who started the recent war with Iran and war in Vietnam? did those wars started by American people? did those wars got approved by the people of America or their elected representatives?
Yes? The US president is elected, and while you or I might the system would be better if presidents didn't have quite so much authority... we know the system works this way when we vote.
I don't know what American LLMs you're using. Just asked Claude, which gives nuanced answers on both, but amounts to "It's contested, but numerous authoritative bodies say yes" and "it depends on your definition of gender".
when it comes to topics like genders, "it depends on your definition"
when it comes to topics like democracy and freedom, western definition is all you must depend on
> You had to reach back 50 years to find US support for dictators.
US allies in the entire middle east are literally all dictators or worse than dictators. For example, Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy, you just need 6 years education in school to understand that is worse than dictators when religion is also heavily involved at the same time.
Yeah I would refine that argument a bit and say the US will sometimes support (or rather, ally with) dictators when the only viable alternative is an arguably worse dictator. There aren't exactly a lot of democracies in the middle east we could be supporting instead.
there weren't a lot of democracies in the world until recently. And even a good many of them are effectively oligarchies.
if you want a good path to true improvement in civil rights (not a useless piece of paper or declaration) just track the wealth of a country. Wealthy countries that didn't rely on natural resources to get wealthy tend to treat their citizens better because, well, they make up the fcking economy.
most western countries had a shortcut to that via colonialism and slavery. It's very rich to then point at countries that don't have that cushion and talk about being morally superior.
Nice theory, but it seems demonstrably untrue to me. Has China made any major strides in civil rights since their economic miracle? They seem as determined to stamp out the few remaining bastions of civil rights in their corner of the world as ever.
Democracy is a morally superior system of government, because it's fundamentally premised on a moral idea; that governments "derive their just powers from the consent of the governed". Dictatorships and aristocracies can make no such claim.
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