You mean the army shooting 40.000 protestors just 2 months ago including 1000+ children, then executed a child that won an international wrestling competition, now accusing everyone else of warcrimes?
I think I'll need some reeducation on this concept of "dignity" you speak. Could you explain further?
None of those numbers are verifiable. The opposition has every incentive to lie. And let's not forget there was a lot of armed agitators amongst those protesters. Mike Huckabee let the cat out of the bag with a tweet boasting of how a mossad agent walks beside every protester.
You're confidently replying to a point that I did not make. Protesters were certainly killed, both peaceful ones and agitators. In addition, government claims hundreds of police officers died and places of worship were attacked and burned.
My point is there is simply no verifiable numbers because both the opposition, particularly diaspora groups backed by the regimes enemies, and the government have incentives to be inaccurate. So trying to use the death toll as a talking point is not a good idea.
It's completely naive to underestimate the role of Mossad and the United States in the unrest. The former through actual Iranian nationals in their employ, and the latter in engineering the dollar shortage that led to the unrest in the first place (Scott Besant bragged about this).
Read the section titled 'The Gamble' if you want that opinion, but the tl;dr is that our 2025 strike against Iran ceded our ability to claim dis-involvement in Israeli strikes, and so Israel was able to draw us into this war whether we wanted to or not.
> The American people voted for this, they wanted this.
Less than half of the people who bothered to vote actually picked the guy.
I even believe that a non-trivial number of those folks actually believed their own rhetoric about America first, no wars, etc. But their commitment to one man is stronger than their commitment to ideals, and so here we are.
While criticism of Israel should not be conflated with antisemitism, the concept of a "Zionist Occupation Government," without question, originates from neo-nazi conspiracy theories. Take that shit elsewhere.
At this point Israelis (and the bulk of Israel-backing jews around the world) only have themselves to blame for the resurgence of neo-nazi conspiracy theories.
>antisemitic conspiracy theory that claims that Jews secretly control the U.S. government.
Anyway, this just seems to be fact, and not a conspiracy theory? Besides for the "secretly" part.
I think at this point it's entirely fair to hate the state of Israel and anyone who supports it existence. Not because of blood libels, but over a century of Zionist aggression.
There's no need for just about anyone to live in Israel, it's a choice. It's okay to hate people for the choices they make.
>A bigot is a person who is obstinately, unreasonably, or unfairly attached to their own beliefs, prejudices, or opinions, particularly regarding race, religion, or politics
It's not in any way unfair to despise people who still support Israel after nearly a century of crimes against humanity.
That'd be a fair criticism if I subscribed to some traditional antisemitic views, but I don't really have any inherent problem with the jewish people. I just want the destruction of the state of Israel and any who would support it, it's purely coincidental that this includes most jewish people.
do you hate Russians? do you hate Syrians/Alawites? Do you hate Turks and Iraqis for what they do to Kurds? Do you hate Japanese for what they did in WWII? Do you hate Americans for Vietnam / Afganistan / Iraq? Do you hate Chinese for Tibet, Xinjiang? Do you hate the British for Bengal Famine? France for Algeria? Pakistan for Bangladesh? Saudis for Yemen? Myanmar for Rohinja? Serbs for Kosovo?
No. You hate on Jews.
All of these conflicts have significantly more deaths than Arab/Israeli conflict. All of them are much more clear cut than Israel that defends itself since 1948 and Jews that defend themselves from hate crimes against civilians since 1920s.
“i just want the destruction of a 9 millon people country (btw including the 2 million arabs? what about druze, samaritans, circasians?)” hate consumes you, you totally are a bigot
Totally, it’s their home. Israeli Arabs also have way higher standard of life than all of other Arab countries – including LGBT rights, passport strength etc. etc.
Destruction of Israel is not about "legal structure", and btw we’ll prevail and people like you are the reason Israel needs to exist. We saw what happens when jews don’t have a national home.
Right, including all the women and the LGBT people. Penalties include severe punishments such as the death penalty, floggings, imprisonment, and fines.
And Israel keeps millions of Palestinians in large concentration camps.
It's hard to imagine what sort of sick mind would consider the Saudi treatment of minorities to be worse. It's abhorrent, but it doesn't come anywhere close to how Israel treats people.
Besides, the whole concept of "Israeli arabs" is a bit hilarious. How are those different from other Palestinian arabs? Is it just that Israeli state considers them more acceptable than other arabs based on some arbitrary standards not grounded on physical reality?
They are different from other palestinian arabs in that they hold israeli citizenship. Not sure how this can be hilarious.
Why don’t you say billions of palestinians in concentration camps? The type of concentration camps with hundred thousand euro luxury cars https://www.facebook.com/LUXURYAUTOMOBILECO/ and corrupt politicians living in mansions. You have no idea what you’re talking about, you never been to Palestine or Israel and you drown in your hateful lies
Something arbitrarily bestowed upon them by recent European invaders that secretly built nuclear weapons to secure their claim to stolen land.
>Why don’t you say billions of palestinians in concentration camps? The type of concentration camps with hundred thousand euro luxury cars https://www.facebook.com/LUXURYAUTOMOBILECO/ and corrupt politicians living in mansions. You have no idea what you’re talking about, you never been to Palestine or Israel and you drown in your hateful lies
I've visited my family in Israel on several occasions in the past. I don't do that anymore though.
Palestinians are prisoners, they have to ask Israel for permission to leave. They are kept in large camps, even if some drive Maybachs.
im sure you are lying and shame on you comparing people driving
maybachs to concentration camps in which millions of jews perished. people from west bank can travel via jordan no problem and so could gazans through egypt. lies and hate as in all the rest of the comments
Everyone should hate Israel. It's a terrorist state built on ethnic cleansing and genocide. It's executed so many crimes against humanity since its inception that it's impossible to track them all."The jews" aren't a nation, there's a nation that claims to represent all jews and it's up to the jews (and only the jews) to push back on that.
I will repeat this question - do you hate Russians? do you hate Syrians/Alawites? Do you hate Turks and Iraqis for what they do to Kurds? Do you hate Japanese for what they did in WWII? Do you hate Americans for Vietnam / Afganistan / Iraq? Do you hate Chinese for Tibet, Xinjiang? Do you hate the British for Bengal Famine? France for Algeria? Pakistan for Bangladesh? Saudis for Yemen? Myanmar for Rohinja? Serbs for Kosovo?
No. You hate on Jews.
All of these conflicts have significantly more deaths than Arab/Israeli conflict. All of them are much more clear cut than Israel that defends itself since 1948 and Jews that defend themselves from hate crimes against civilians since 1920s.
Israel is actively a bad actor, many of the ones you listed are not.
>All of them are much more clear cut than Israel that defends itself since 1948
It's dishonest to suggest that Israel was in any way defending itself in 1948, given that it's very creation was an act of aggression.
Despite a plenty of opportunities, Israel has never taken a step back to reset that. Because of that, Israel remains the aggressor.
Yitzhak Rabin perhaps tried and was rewarded with two bullets for his efforts. The Jewish supremacist who killed him is widely celebrated as a hero in Israel.
Oh, and when Rabin was killed it was the fourth assassination attempt by jewish supremacists that year. Now those same people run the country.
I disengage, no need to argue with psychopaths. I am sure you never held a gun or would shoot anyone, keyboard warrior.
If anyone reads his comments I strongly recommend verifying everything he says as it îs factually incorrect, but is based on russian style firehose of falsehood mixing in couple of sensible statements (like the fact that Rabin was killed by an extremist).
