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One thing you can do is shun employees of associated companies (Amazon, Tesla, Facebook) and refuse to give them a job. That requires some sacrifice though.


I believe type-fest supports this, previously as “Opaque” types: https://github.com/sindresorhus/type-fest/blob/main/source/o...


True, although "Opaque" was deprecated and replaced with similar type "Tagged" (that supports multiple tags and metadata).


Do you have children? How do you propose to convince or force others not to have children without devolving into something that could reasonably be called “eco-fascism”?


Pretty easy really - promote social programs that lift the standard of living and promote easy access to quality education.

You can look at, say, Hans Rosling presentations over the past decades and see just how highly correlated education and women's rights are with reducing population expansion rates.

Free quality public TV | streaming doesn't hurt either.


How is that easy to accomplish nationally let alone globally? What if there’s places that buck the trend, or don’t want to incentivize low birth rates in this way?


Taxes, sanctions, globalization. The idea, as I understand it, is that instead of using old fascism with boots and shootings, you just use new fascism with “economic realities” which basically do the same through starvation and homelessness. It works in the west, all you have to do is to give free youtube and tv to everyone in less developed regions, so they’d want that lifestyle badly.


How do we get people to do anything? Violence.

Unfortunately in our flesh and blood world as much as we have a dalliance with forming a society it still all comes down to violence at the end of the day. We hate it, but it's true.

Keep in mind my definition of violence is expansive, not only drawing blood but I would count imprisoning someone (who has broken laws) against their will as (a necessary) violence.


It's easier than devolving into literal facism which was the first bar you set.

It's easy enough that the bulk of G20 countries got there sans the USofA which still struggles with public healthcare.

Of course doing something isn't as easy as sitting around doing nothing save moving a bar along and just asking.

Projection wise, for now, globally we're headed to peak and decline in population so much of this jawing is moot.


They got there by getting us to the point we’re at now, by burning fossil fuels and offloading many of their social ills to other regions. By all means, let’s improve education and get more money in people’s pockets. But degrowth is much more likely to be accomplished through fascism than by raising the standard of living globally in a way that preserves regional independence.


I agree that only an overwhelmingly powerful state apparatus could tear people away from their fast food and cat videos. And cars. And heat.

‘You will own nothing and you will be happy. For the good of the planet, of course.’


Came here to promote Hans Rosling's work, highly recommend taking a look at it for how global stats improve across the board over time.


Why would they need to be convinced or forced? Birth rates are declining around the world, in almost every culture. Having fewer children appears to be a choice that people are happy to make for themselves.


People have having less children than replacement levels in all the developed countries. Probably all that is needed for the same to happen in Africa and the like is similar development.


There are so many great games out right now but, like many others, I’ve found myself returning to games like Old School Essentials and other games from the Old School Renaissance. I’ve been inconsistently playing in this game - https://attronarch.com/wilderlands - and dying a fair amount . That game is perhaps more lethal than most, but the stories I’ve come away with have made it maybe the best game I’ve participated in.


Catherine Liu's short book Virtue Hoarders has this thesis, arguing that the class that this language is a marker of is the professional managerial class (PMC), a social class originally posited by the John and Barbara Ehrenreich in the 70s. I can't recommend the book too highly but I think it was correct in most of its observations.


> a social class originally posited by the John and Barbara Ehrenreich in the 70s

The professional managerial class was also identified and studied quite a bit earlier. James Burnham wrote about it extensively in 1941 in The Managerial Revolution, and that was based (in part) on ideas from Vilfredo Pareto in the early 1900s about "elite theory."


Missing from this article is any discussion of Wright’s This Other World, a large collection of haiku written while he was in exile in France toward the end of his life. For those who are less into his political fiction these poems are a great introduction to his writing.


I think the point is that people have different ideas about what the focus needs to be on.


Yeah, I'm just adding a data point.


I think they are real. Just because they are a temporary state or contradicted by other real feelings doesn’t make them not real. For me it has been helpful to remember that how I’m feeling now is not the only way I’ll feel and how I’m thinking about a subject is not the only way I have to think about that subject. Feelings and thoughts change, as you said.


I think what suifbwish is getting at is the more meta-physical nature of emotions. What I mean by that is one has strong vivid thought about some doom that will come or some horrible thing that happened in the past and they are strong emotions. It's easy to get caught up in them and lose the present moment. When you lose the present moment your mind can not differentiate between now and a memory, so it thinks the memory is now and responds accordingly.

Memories and emotions are not "real" in that they are not the present moment, and being able to stay grounded in the present moment while having these thoughts can help. In metaphor, it's like pinching yourself while dreaming.

What imo helps the most is realizing everything is impermanent / temporary. If you have a particularly gruesome emotion you can know you don't have to do anything, because it will go away on its own, like a rain cloud, in due time. So you can relax even while freaking out.


That was really great and explained it really well, thanks!


I’m not super educated on the subject but am I wrong to think that basically all large non-domesticated mammals will go extinct over the next few generations? It doesn't look like humans are inclined to do anything about the climate and these animals seem particularly vulnerable.


You are indeed wrong. Many populations are thriving. Some examples local to me: black bears, cougars, grizzly bears, various species of deer and a couple of elk herds. Climate change won’t affect these animals much, especially here in BC. They may end up migrating north a bit but bears in particular are incredibly adaptable animals.


I'm not a scientist nor have I studied ecological effects on species, but you're statement is definitely too strong.

Its probably unlikely that all non domesticated animals will die in the soon (next 200yrs) future. Beyond that it's just beyond unpredictable, because the challenges of that time haven't even been identified yet.


We still don't know if climate is a loos coupled or strong coupled system.

Could go either way. Lets try nothing otherwise we might create a sustainable environment with healthy air, energy and more animals for nothing.


The problem isn't just due to climate change. It's also due to the constant destruction and expansion into natural/wild areas.


Nobody knows the future. Sperm whales benefit of our overfishing so they recovered really fast. Hector's dolphins are hurt by our overfishing, so they are in big trouble.


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