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This is the state of HN. Created new account. Accused without evidence. Emotional clickbait.

I vibe coded hn10k earlier this year. You could choose to see pages with comments only started by 1k+, 10k+ or 100k+ karma contributors. I'm too lazy to keep it up, but I found 1k and 10k both to be better experiences than "vanilla".

I suppose you meant GPT-2, but for years? Did they say the same about subsequent models?


For GPT-2 and GPT-3 it seems like the concern was that they hadn't yet figured out how to properly write safeguards for it yet:

> The company believes making its API generally available was made possible due to its progress with safeguards, and that opening up the API to all developers will help see applications developed faster. ...

> A large emphasis has been placed on safe use of the tool, which in the past has been criticised for a range of shortcomings, including racism and prejudices against specific genders and religions.


Maybe, but they certainly used it for marketing too. At the time they contacted a bunch of publications and gave them access but told them they could only share snippets of the output [1]. The only reason to set restrictions like that is marketing.

[1]: https://youtu.be/TfVYxnhuEdU?t=102

Transcript of the timestamped part:

> Now, OpenAI's terms of service don't let me give you the full list. I have to curate them, and show you a sample. Those are the terms and conditions I agreed to.


GPT-4 was announced in March 2023 and wasn't made available to all developers until July 2023.

You are the minority - [0]

According to that article:

- The global cleaning services market is predicted to grow to roughly $482 billion in 2026 and $859 billion by 2030 with a 7.5% annual growth rate.

- There are over 1.4+ million cleaners currently employed in the U.S.

- The U.S. janitorial services market is worth $112 billion, with 1+ million cleaning businesses as of 2026.

- The average annual pay for a cleaning business owner in the U.S. is $127,973 a year.

- The average annual salary for a house cleaner in the U.S is $35,034.

- 73% of cleaning business owners expect revenue growth in 2026.

- 55% of cleaning businesses raised prices in the last 12 months.

- 41% of households use recurring cleaning services, as customers shift from one-time bookings to weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly plans.

[0] - https://www.getjobber.com/academy/cleaning/cleaning-industry...


> You are in the minority ... 41% of households use recurring cleaning services ...

Wouldn't that put OP in the majority?


If 41% of households are actively employing a cleaner then it seems very likely that more than 50% would be happy to have their home cleaned if only they could afford it (as opposed to the commenter starting this thread, who seems to see household cleaning as a positive part of their life).

How big of a bubble do you have to be in to be thinking "I like cleaning" is the majority position among normal people?

Is it “I like cleaning”,

or “I benefit from knowing some moron didn’t come flood the cracks of my floors and wood cabinetry, creating mold”?

Yet to come across pros doing it better than me, means I don’t hire pros yet.


> Is it “I like cleaning”

Yes, that really is what was said in the original comment we're discussing.

Somehow that got defended as a (possible) majority view.


Maybe but can you elaborate what the changes are?

Give examples of boosters (average or not) and what they've promised?

Have you seen how active China and to some degree Russia have been in Africa? When there is vacuum someone will fill it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47978386


The payload (100t) is at least double that of previous flights. It’s largest spacecraft ever flew. That’s some stalling

No. "I don't know" may be interpreted as "I don't care". Adding additional info may be a way to say "I do care". Similar to sometimes we say "I don't know, but I googled it, and I got this".

Also, LLM's answers can be good if the prompts are good, so can still be helpful.


Turning up to a potluck with no food says "I don't care".

Turning up to a potluck with a bag of garbage you got for free in the dumpster on the way says "I don't care, and I'm so dumb I think you're too dumb to know this is trash".


This is more like bringing fast food burgers. Yeah, it's a bit lazy, but some people do actually appreciate the effort. And post of the people complaining aren't even part of the potluck.

"I don't know. Do you want me to figure it out?" would be my take, depending on circumstances.

There is whole range of requests or questions that I don’t care but I don’t want to reply „I don’t care” especially when someone asks for something easily googlable/llmable.

A much better way to say "I do care" is to be explicit about that. "It's an important question, but you should ask someone more knowledgeable."

Do this: pick a public company (because their numbers are available), look at their quarterly reports in the last 3 years. Check the numbers they forecasted for the subsequent quarter. Verify how bad they missed. See how likely they could "completely shit itself and go bust". Hint: extremely unlikely.

What in the hell are you babbling about? Talking about what public companies do versus what the black mystery box with a question mark on it does is asinine. The entire point of this shit is that Anthropic's numbers AREN'T available. They can say whatever the fuck they want. This is why trying to get a straight answer out of them about their revenues and profits and overall business model is like the riddle of the sphinx. They have no obligation to report finances in the same way public companies are obligated to.

Ever notice that, by the way? There's a lot of exciting, non-GAAP shit going around in this field.

You're looking at this on the idea of a missed prediction. That's not where I'm at with this. I think Anthropic is straight-up lying. I think they are genuinely making shit up. This isn't a financial forecast, it's bullshit to hype up investors without actually having to prove it's based on anything whatsoever. It's either pure bullshit, or the numbers are so massaged and delivered at such a highly specific angle that it only becomes a logical way to display data if you're an MBA with a concussion.

We have absolutely 0 reason to believe what they're saying is true. We have lots of reasons to believe they'll say shit if they think they'll get more money out of it (see: every time they open their mouths and journalists rush to copy-paste the quote into headlines).


I suppose you're also using Chinese models, who all have to be at the behest of the Communist party. China also have "horribly damaging" coal power plants. Do they acquire training data ethically? Do they censor? Be honest with yourself. Your concerns have nothing to do with ethic.

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