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Your picture is itself quite impressive. Do you mind sharing more about the equipment and process it takes to capture something like that?

Edit: Oh, you can click through the image and see technical details. Very cool.


You already noticed the technical card [1], but I can describe some of the details that go into this for those unfamiliar with the items on it.

1. The scope they used is roughly equivalent to shooting with an 800mm telephoto lens. But the fact that it's 8" wide means it can let in a lot of light.

2. The camera [2] is a cooled monochrome camera. Sensor heat is a major source of noise, so the idea is to cool the sensor to -10deg (C) to reduce that noise. Shooting in mono allows you shoot each color channel separately, with filters that correspond to the precise wavelengths of light that are dominant in the object you're shooting and ideally minimize wavelengths present in light pollution or the moon. Monochrome also allows you to make use of the full sensor rather than splitting the light up between each channel. These cameras also have other favorable low-light noise properties, like large pixels and deep wells.

3. The mount is an EQ6-R pro (same mount I use!) and this is effectively a tripod that rotates counter to the Earth's spin. Without this, stars would look like curved streaks across the image. Combined with other aspects of the setup, the mount can also point the camera to a specific spot in the sky and keep the object in frame very precisely.

4. The set of filters they used are interesting! Typically, people shoot with RGB (for things like galaxies that use the full spectrum of visible light) or HSO (very narrow slices of the red, yellow, and blue parts of the visible spectrum, better for nebulas composed of gas emitting and reflecting light at specific wavelengths). The image was shot with a combination: a 3nm H-Alpha filter captures that red dusty nebulosity in the image and, for a target like the horsehead nebula, has a really high signal-to-noise ratio. The RGB filters were presumably for the star colors and to incorporate the blue from Alnitak into the image. The processing here was really tasteful in my opinion. It says this was shot from a Bortle-7 location, so that ultra narrow 3nm filter is cutting out a significant amount of light pollution. These are impressive results for such a bright location.

5. They most likely used a secondary camera whose sole purpose is to guide the mount and keep it pointed at the target object. The basic idea is try to put the center of some small star into some pixel. If during a frame that star moves a pixel to the right, it'll send an instruction to the mount to compensate and put it back to its original pixel. The guide camera isn't on the technical card, but they're using PHD2 software for guiding which basically necessitates that. The guide camera could have its own scope, or be integrated into the main scope by stealing a little bit of the light using a prism.

6. Lastly, it looks like most of the editing was done using Pixinsight. This allows each filter to be assigned to various color channels, alignment and averaging of the 93 exposures shot over 10 hours across 3 nights, subtraction of the sensor noise pattern using dark frames, removal of dust/scratches/imperfections from flat frames, and whatever other edits to reduce gradients/noise and color calibration that went into creating the final image.

[1] https://www.astrobin.com/w4tjwt/0/

[2] https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com/product/asi294mm-pro/


Thanks! I hadn't gotten to writing this out, but you've pretty much nailed it.

> They most likely used a secondary camera whose sole purpose is to guide the mount and keep it pointed at the target object.

I did use a guide camera with an off-axis guider, I'm not sure why it wasn't in the equipment list. I've added it.

> The RGB filters were presumably for the star colors and to incorporate the blue from Alnitak into the image.

This is primarily an RGB image, so the RGB filters were used for more than the star colors. This is a proper true color image. I could get away with doing that from my location because this target is so bright. The HA filter was used as a luminance/detail layer. That gave me a bunch of detail that my local light pollution would hide, and let me pick up on that really wispy stuff in the upper right :)

> The processing here was really tasteful in my opinion.

Awe shucks, thanks :blush:


Ah, of course it's HaRGB. Really cool. I'm curious, you de-star the color layers or leave them as is when combining channels? When I've tried HaRGB, the Ha layer has the best/smallest stars which means that the RGB color layers end up leaving rings of color on the background around each star.


I don't remember exactly what I did, but I do remember running into that kind of problem. I probably used starnet2 to remove stars before doing much processing, and recombining stars towards the end.


One of my favorite comments ever on HN. I’m big into photography and yet learned something on nearly every bullet. Thank you!


Well, if you think photography is too easy you could try taking up astrophotograhy :)


The exact opposite for me! I have a hard enough time getting composition and exposure correct shooting stuff here on Earth!


Now I need to know the ballpark cost of this whole setup, so it will block me from trying to get into yet another very costly hobby.

EDIT: oh, just saw it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40206558


You packed so much knowledge in your brief response! Thank you!


Thanks for detailing this. Learned a lot.


"Do you mind sharing more about the equipment and process"

I'm sorry, but this is making me laugh so hard. I don't know a lot about astrophotography, but one thing I've experienced so far is that astrophotographers love to talk about their equipment and process.

It's like asking a grandparent, "Oh, do you have pictures of your grandkids?" It kind of makes their day. :)


Haha, yeah. I could go on for hours. I've had to learn that most people really don't want a lecture series on the finer points of astrophotography. Seabass's comment was pretty much perfect; a bit of detail, but not so much to get lost in the detail.

I tried to write a quick comment on my process a couple of times before they posted, and each time I had way too many words on a small detail.


Nonsense! Just one more story, please?

(Thanks for sharing!)


How about a talk by an expert on the topic of noise in an image: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RH93UvP358


"May the sign of the exponential be ever in your favor." -- @dbasch, a great tweet concluding that thread


These guys screwed me over in exactly this way when I bought a car from them three years ago. I raised hell when the deal I was asked to sign was for ~$2k more than we negotiated, but they wouldn’t budge. I should have walked away, but it’s hard when they spring it on you at the last second after you’ve spent hours getting to that point. Before I left their lot, I pulled the license plate frames with their name off the car and made a show of throwing them in showroom trash can. I told them they had sold a car, but I would forever tell everyone I know how shady they were.

I’m happy to see this.


You will want to contact the FTC Consumer Response Center (877-382-4357) to receive information for applying for restitution as part of this action.


Thanks for the heads-up!


The $10M fine is going directly to their victims. Maybe you can get part of it.


I'm sorry you had that experience. I've helped dozens of people buy cars from them and they are notorious for this. It's a shame, most dealers do this crap. It's ridiculous.


+1 they literally did the exact same thing to me a few months back. I'm still trying to get my money back from them.


Release party in progress at https://www.twitch.tv/teej_dv .


First thing I see is a prime video ad. Amazon is helping fund neovim.


Are you sure it's not just the fact that Twitch is owned by Amazon?


I guess I don't use Twitch. Can they turn off the monetization? Did they turn it on?


Why would they turn it off? They should make money for the work they've done.


There was a time when you could identify the entire country of Cuba by the "accent" of their CW signals. For whatever reason, probably the popularity of certain homebrew gear designs there, most Cuban CW signals had a characteristic "chirp" due to the frequency shifting a little at the start of each dot and dash. That, and sometimes their average frequency would drift up or down the band, and you'd have to chase them around.

I had a lot of fun with radios as a kid (15--20 years ago). It was so magical to talk all across the world from your bedroom. Then this whole Internet thing happened. ;)


Thank you, Alexis. Well done.


You're quite welcome! Thanks!


Cool site, but it's "If the Earth were 100 pixels wide, ..."

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/subjunctive-verbs-was-i...

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Thank you! I tweeted this link earlier and had originally copied the "was", then realized it sounded wrong and corrected it.


It's the only time we get to use a different word to express the subjunctive mood in English.


Try the command line program "enscript". It has many options that control the output formatting. For example, you can print pages in landscape orientation, two-up, with source highlighting and line numbers.


What software produced this slide presentation?


If you didn't know about it, you might want to look at asciidoc: http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/ (search for slidy)


Software that predates the iPad, it seems.


It looks like a custom one, but it reminds me of "impress.js"


What a civil discourse.


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