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what a horrible attitude, especially for a forum dedicated to "hackers".

the code is open source, why dont you show us what a quality test suite looks like?


Oh my. Don't you think that code generated by an LLM has nothing to do with "hackers"? And once/if you realize that, don't you immediately see that they're right? Maybe not in the way they say it, but otherwise - they're absolutely right.



"There's apparently only ~2000 Uzbek-Americans in all of northern IL"

where did you get this number? does that include chicago, because i live in Chicago area ... seems low.


https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/lists/uzbek-population-in...

Figuring some fudge factor too. It could be low - it's hard to find numbers for nationality counts for central Asians broken down by state.


that websites estimates are definitely too low - e.g. there are definitely more than 40 Uzbek people in Chicago... I've been to 3 uzbek restaurants in Chicago proper myself.


Broadly (in another comment I made) I think I've made sense of it. Regardless of the real population, it's probably not just the Uzbek population sustaining these places. That most likely wouldn't be viable.

My wife's restaurant for example targets a nationality that is wayyyy more numerous (not Mexicans; that'd be easy enough), and it's tough for us to stay profitable.


> "A company whose first demo was completely fraudulent"

Could you expand on this?


Agree 100%. Costco exemplifies american dream... recent immigrants perusing well-stocked aisles, friendly employees, ample parking, cheap tasty hot dogs, etc.


Perhaps this depends a lot on location. Parking is a nightmare at my local Costco. The employees are friendly enough most of the time. I truly admire the value and business model but Costco is pretty much the absolute worst shopping experience I can think of.


It's because they are so busy. Yeah, costco is the one store I go to that people seem to have 0 spatial awareness. Every time I go, someone will just stop moving in the middle of the aisle, creating backups, without any shame. But I bet if your other local grocery stores were as busy as costco, they would have the same issues.


That's interesting because my experience is the opposite. Costco can swallow up an irrational number of people and still be pretty smooth inside. The parking lot can be packed and when you walk in the door it turns out to be fine.

Walmart, on the other hand, is the absolute pinnacle of shitty shopper behavior. People being rude, pushy, completely oblivious standing in the middle of the aisle, etc. At least in my area, Costco attracts a different kind of clientele.


"the absolute worst shopping experience I can think of"

Indeed:

* Short opening hours

* checking the membership card at the entrance

* cell phone salesmen inside

* item locations change randomly

* items randomly disappear for weeks at a time, as if Leonid Brezhnev was in charge of restocking

* waiting at the exit for someone to check your receipt

* for a while, they'd check your receipt at the self-checkout and then check it again at the exit

* 1970s level IT, inaccurate inventory information

Microsoft used to give a cash bonus for patents; I imagine Costco has a bonus program for new ideas to make the shopping experience worse. Some ideas:

* throw lit firecrackers into the crowd

* pour oil on the floor so people slip

* complete darkness inside the store

* every 10th person at the checkout has their credit card cut into pieces


Agreed. The entire store is wired to encourage impulse buying and keep you from making rational decisions about whether you'll be able to finish that 3lb container of guacamole before it goes bad.


I don't see how Costco prevents you from making rational decisions. If anything the incredibly plain atmosphere (wide open spaces, no flashing lights, no loud music) feels much more calm than the typical retail experience.

My average food waste from a Costco trip is significantly lower than other grocery stores.


Also Costco has a really annoying "treasure hunt" strategy where goods are re-arranged around the store trying to get you to explore aisles (aka get lost and waste time) to impulse buy more stuff.

Other stores (Target, Walmart, etc) will let you look up the item's aisle in their app and be considerate of your time.


Costco's app will let you search inventory, but not let you see location or quantity.


I love Costco, but I hate that they constantly move shit!


I find the experience of shopping at Costco very uncomfortable. The parking lots are jammed packed, everyone is darting around with large shopping carts, the lines for the cashier are long, sales people are trying to pitch me on travel deals as I walk by - it almost feels like going through a busy airport. I am a Costco member, but I only go to the store when I really need to. The fact that I can shop Costco via Instacart was a gamechanger for me.


ample parking? Not at any locations in my area. Even on weekdays.


Go within an hour or so of opening.

I used to work right across the st from one and would spend most of my shift looking out at their parking lot and you could see it get more packed throughout the day, thin out a little bit in the early afternoon and then slowly drain towards closing.

It's always least crowded right at open and then an hour (? or maybe two?) later they open for the "regular" people and once that's the case, it fills quickly.


> Go within an hour or so of opening.

Hah. It’s such a PITA that Costco includes an hour earlier entry on the top tier membership.


I regularly shop at Costco and its usually one of five which ever is more convenient at the time. In all of my experience with Costco there is exactly one that has shitty parking, the rest are fine. That is if you have enough wrinkles in your brain to notice that in front of the store there 10 cars waiting for spot and parking a little bit in a back is easier.

I often see people cruising around still looking for parking while I already managed: to park, walk to the storefront, get myself a hot dog, eat my hot dog, grab a cart.


I park in the back any time I go to Costco. the locations nearest to me are always packed to the brim. even the sort of "secret" extra spots that are behind the building and could be considered employee spots.


My local locations are busy even during those times. it's a constant battle.


For lots and lots of Americans, endless consumerism, driving and junk food are not a part of the dream in any way.


The hotdogs. You know the world is ending when Costco raises the prices of their hotdog.


> friendly employees

Where are the employees? There are so few employees (other than cashier) on the ground in a football field sized warehouse. Good luck finding someone if you have a question


> it costs >1000% to run inference

do you have a source for this claim? i thought LLM providers earn high margins from inference (charged by token). is this no longer the case?


if a $6000000 cabinet can generate 10000/s tokens of Opus but only 1000/s tokens of Mythos, then Mythos costs 1000% to run no matter the markup.

no one has a source, because no one knows closed model parameter counts. we have only heuristics which strongly indicate that Mythos is simply a big fucking model that any other lab could make an equivalent of.


This was just theorised. The leaked OpenAI financials suggest otherwise (because of shady naming of losses)

The only ones who seem to profit are the ones running smaller Chinese models. Even NVIDIA seems to have to "reinvest" their profits into sponsoring companies to buy their cards now.


"Our most likely estimate is that replacement costs are approximately $91 billion. Military and strategic assets — nuclear facilities, missile and drone production infrastructure, air bases, naval vessels, and air defense systems — make up roughly half that total, at approximately $46 billion, which is equivalent to 4-6 years of Iran’s pre-war defense budget"

How exactly did they arrive at this estimate? I would like to see a building-by-building breakdown, or at least a methodology. Feels very vibe-researched tbh.


You could get to a pretty good figure by assuming the Iranians know they can ask for at least twice as much. Three times as much isn't even pushing it.


More is probably better for Trump if it's larger because it's more padding through which the deal can be engineered that "such and such" [friend/proxy of Trump] has to be destination company/supplier of reparations materials or other self-dealing benefits.


Exactly (I made just this point with a bit less clarity than yours, in another comment)


as a math major i had the same confusion; for such that i use "s.t.". but apparently peano used ∋ to mean such that:

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/15455/backwards-eps...


why doesnt hackernews count as social media?


Whether or not it counts as social media, there is no algorithm targeting individuals as far as I know. Social media in the sense of HN is just the internet.


It does, but as you really can't get money out of it in a reliable way by exploiting the user addictive behaviors, it doesn't have that effect on society.

It's just a cool place to visit now an then an check cool stuff out.


Kind of interesting how many people don’t realize that the purpose of Hacker News was to be an advertisement for Y Combinator and their portfolio companies.

You don’t see it as much these days, but YC portfolio companies can post privileged threads on this site for job listings, which in practice double as ads for the company. You’re not allowed to comment on them.

I haven’t seen one for a while because I suspect every company is already inundated with 1000 applications for every job in this market, but this is what Hacker News was for.


> people don’t realize

Y Combinator is right there in the URL. People know and don't care because it's a well run forum with interesting discussions, the privileged posts don't change that.


> Y Combinator is right there in the URL

Most people aren't so slavishly devoted to capital that they have memorized the names of firms.


I think most people know this and are fine with it. YC owns the site and advertises their stuff on it sometimes. The site itself is not trying to milk you for every penny or trying to exploit you.


Whatever the purpose was, that's not really the reality of HN as most of us experience it.


Just live on /active and that stuff doesn't show up.


And, HN doesn't show your ranking, at least obviously, so it doesn't get the same gamification to try and maximize points.

But, it is social media. Just that they make a point to try and tone it down and keep it focused.


Man, I wish. It used to be that, but I suspect now that there's a lot of astroturfing and probably bots.


I also notice that. I don't really know where else to go now


> why doesnt hackernews count as social media?

It doesn't intentionally insert dark patterns into the platform.

It's not without flaws, of course, but it's 1+ orders of magnitude better than anything else.


We have social media-like systems going arguably Compuserve and the like, as well as games. There's a matter of "refinement", like how some older people describe the change of drugs over the decades. TikTok, Twitter and many of the games are just "too strong", and it matters. Nobody gets "addicted" to Mario 3 or IRC to the point it resembles alcoholism.


> Nobody gets "addicted" to Mario 3 or IRC to the point it resembles alcoholism.

People definitely became internet junkies in the past. IRC was where you could find chronically online people before that term was popular.

The good old IRC quote databases were full of jokes about people not leaving their house and being online all the time. I remember being mocked in IRC rooms because I was out doing things instead of being on IRC all weekend. IRC was the place for the chronically online. This has always been a thing and it’s weird to see it dismissed so casually.


People were definitely addicted to IRC.


The lack of ads, and the algorithm for sorting the feed.

I think the spectrum runs from social media, to forum, to news feed… maybe other things. HN isn’t toxic.


If you want to be pedantic, everything that has user interaction I think technically counts as social media. So just about any forum on the internet counts. But there's a pretty big difference in an anonymous forum, and something like twitter, facebook etc.


I think it is part of Web 2.0 with its user-generated content, but I think it lacks most of the central aspects of Social Media:

- contacts/friends

- personalisation

- followers

I think some central feeds + comments are not enough, especially with the weak user profile concept (I mean, there are not even profile pictures). But I think some people consider HN Social Media.


because we're not putting our personal lives on display here. it's a news aggregator and discussion forum. sure, some folks post their personal projects, but it's framed as news to be discussed, not desperation for validation.


I guess it is mostly (by default):

a) real pseudonymity b) no photos/videos c) no infinite scroll d) no notifications e) very specific (mildly speaking) topic range f) very very good ranking and filtering algo ....


(g) guidelines designed for curiosity and intellectual discussion that are enforced by the moderators. No "real" social media platform has anything similar. (so maybe it's more like a discussion board? LessWrong/old phpbb forums)


So true!


Why should it? Can I add you as a friend on HN? Can I become your follower? What are the social features that would make HN social media?


Talking to people


Then e-mail should also be considered social media. We need a better definition.


compare list of conflicts in europe to those in middle east over past from 1000 AD - 1900AD:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe

in particular state formation in late medieval and early modern europe saw immense bloodshed and turmoil.

middle east was comparatively peaceful in contrast, especially post mongol conquest.

e.g. compare 1700s and 1800s europe to middle east


So you're arguing the crusaders brought peace to the middle east?

This history is so vast I can't even begin to think about how to compare. But one thing that feels odd to me is how people think of the middle east as somehow separate/far from Europe when in fact it's basically the same neighborhood. The Greek and the Romans were there. Under the Ottoman Empire, Muslims from present day Bosnia moved to present day Israel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushnak

Don't forget that Christianity came from the middle east and ofcourse Islam.

The Ottoman Empire ruled vast swaths of present day Europe. Spain was under Muslim rule until 1492.

It's all one big mesh. Just yesterday I learnt that many present day Yemeni trace their roots to the Levant. Very different than farther regions like Afria, China, India and ofcourse the Americas, Australia etc.


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