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Weak arguments. Labor exploitation is nothing special in regards to AI, neither is environmental impact. It's like everything else. You can say the same thing about Uber, Zara, Supermarkets, any tech company. This isn't really a valid argument against AI. And whether it's real intelligence or not is just ridiculous. Nobody cares. It's useful, it's all that matters.


I barely made any changes and resulted in 430K


Thank you for your hard work. Here is your salary and hard earned pension.


I'm having a hard time taking anything new from Google seriously. In 2 years they might just sunset both of these for yet another iteration of a work collaboration and messaging app.


Your criticism is fair, except the camera access. It's a video chat tool, of course it's going to ask you to use your camera. What do you expect?


> It's a video chat tool, of course it's going to ask you to use your camera.

You only know this because you saw the HN headline.


There is nothing to expect because the landing page has no useful information, as the parent comment stated.


If you check out the text of the link at the top of the page, it has some helpful context. Specifically, that the linked website is for "video calls, in 3D"


But in any other context you'll likely not know what it is. Even with the title, I have very very little idea of what it means. Video calls with one other person? Multiple? Are they recorded? Define "3D". There needs to be at least some high level explanation on the page (or a link to one).


Your landing page says no such thing.


You know it's a video chat tool only because of the HN thread. How would you know if you randomly stumbled on to the landing page?


Begging is a form of request, or lead someone to do something. So it's like it requests/leads to a question.


Watched about 20 minutes. Maybe there's a point hidden somewhere in between his rantings, buts it's quite hard to grasp it. He moves back and forth between actual criticism of the Windows UI and just stuff that he personally likes as an advanced user.

I agree that Windows is far from perfect (I'm mostly a Mac user) but IMO the biggest issue is complexity. For tech savvy users all these are non issues, but for my Mom it would be impossible.

OTOH she can operate an iPhone just fine.


Lessons from the video: Simple things should be simple, complex things should be possible.

Fitt’s law is a good guidepost for efficient GUI design.

Don’t break backwards compatibility.

The GUI should immediately show the information the user demands when he commands it to.

Unnecessary UI elements should be hide-able.

Mouse gestures are underutilized and should be standardized.

The UI shouldn’t interfere with the user’s tasks; hitting the Windows key shouldn’t kill your game.

GUI is actually pronounced “Gee-you-eye” and not “gooey”.

Steve Jobs was actually GUI Hitler and Microsoft killed baby GUI Jesus.


> GUI is actually pronounced “Gee-you-eye” and not “gooey”.

I always thought acronyms were pronounced phonetically whenever possible, like NASA, SCUBA, etc.

Even if that's not the case, "gooey" has become ubiquitous enough to be the colloquial pronunciation.


I have always spelled it out in my head, and the first time I heard someone say it I was utterly confused as to what they meant. To me, if I were to try to pronounce it, it would sound like "guy", as in the first syllable of "guide". Unlike Nasa or scuba, there's no universally obvious pronunciation for GUI—and thus I think it should be spelled out.


I have not changed my pronunciation or any of my own opinions based on this video; I only listed lessons to be learned from watching it in its entirety.


FBI, CIA, WHO (varies), UN, radar, laser, MWRAP (hybrid), AK-47, DNA, RNA, DoD, DoJ, NIH, NIMH ....

Consistency is not our strong suit.


How come it has a very similar aesthetic to Splitwise? Is that from the same developer or just using the same UI theme?


In many cases, especially in the early days of a startup, you can't even afford the 1/2 weeks to increase code quality, because you might not have a business by then. If you have a demo for a customer the next day, at that point software quality does not matter at all.


I mean, are there startups that have a demo a week or two after they are created? Because the article is saying that correct software is cheaper on every timescale past that.


What I meant is that the closer you get to a delivery date, the more stress there is on you to "just make stuff work".

Most software projects that: 1) create business value, 2) are not trivial, and 3) have time constraints, reach a point where you have to just finish it, no matter the cost to code quality. I see it where I work. We have pretty good programmers, but sometimes we have to create debt intentionally because we know that's the way we'll make the deadline, and therefore impress customers, and therefore buy more time to write new features, and fix that debt.


This makes sense, but -honestly- how often do you take the time to fix the debt? Or are you pushed for the next feature?


Anecdote not data: We've have had 4/5 times in the last 3 years of our operation where we features that we launched in less than a week that were very important to launch.


True, but a counter argument could be that Apple has created the ability of your phone to have apps installed on it. And I’m theory you could jailbreak your phone and install any app you’d want.


Sure; but I paid $1000 for my phone in part because of that capability. My phone would be worth less if I couldn't install apps like spotify. And unlike a game console, app purchases aren't used to subsidise the phones. Its pure profit for apple.

And I wouldn't have a problem with that in general, except it feels dirty to claim Apple are saints for graciously allowing apps like spotify to be sold on their platform. They're already being paid for doing so through phone sales. Leveraging the monopoly they hold over the ios app store against Spotify, one of their competitors, is exactly what antitrust legislation is designed to prevent.


And the developers are paying a fee every year just to exist on the app store.


I was getting depressed towards the end of the event list, and the last one cheered me up. Everything is circular.


It is happier, still a bit depressing, though, knowing that everything that happened already happened and will keep on happening.


Whoever thou mayest be, beloved stranger, whom I meet here for the first time, avail thyself of this happy hour and of the stillness around us, and above us, and let me tell thee something of the thought which has suddenly risen before me like a star which would fain shed down its rays upon thee and every one, as befits the nature of light.

Fellow man! Your whole life, like a sandglass, will always be reversed and will ever run out again, - a long minute of time will elapse until all those conditions out of which you were evolved return in the wheel of the cosmic process. And then you will find every pain and every pleasure, every friend and every enemy, every hope and every error, every blade of grass and every ray of sunshine once more, and the whole fabric of things which make up your life. This ring in which you are but a grain will glitter afresh forever. And in every one of these cycles of human life there will be one hour where, for the first time one man, and then many, will perceive the mighty thought of the eternal recurrence of all things:- and for mankind this is always the hour of Noon.


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