A woman's hospital bill for delivering her baby showed "SKIN TO SKIN AFTER C-SEC $39.35". She could of saved some money if she refused to hold her baby right after he was born.
I've stopped letting these people lead me by the nose. For the community support and staying compatible I'm currently sticking with an Ubuntu upgrade path, but I've long left the default user interfaces behind. For a window manager I use openbox with tint2. I don't find much utility in the Debian/Ubuntu derived distros like Linux Mint, jumping from being based on Ubuntu,to Debian, then back to Ubuntu and breaking compatibility along the way.
The parent is talking about visiting and you warp it into colonizing. Aboriginals probably knew about these places but had better places to live than a craggy, barren island with salt spray in their faces. If the aboriginals had the foresight to predict the land grabbing empire builders they may of dug themselves in but then some other fanciful justification tale like religious freedom would have been created to justify aboriginal displacement and land robbery.
> To migrate over long distances you don't by definition need to return, so the people you left have no idea where you went.
That sure sounds like discussing one-way colonization to me.
Also, the islands I discussed (save Madagascar, which is a full-on continental crust fragment and is the fourth-largest island in the world) are all volcanic islands, not atolls--the Azores are actually the highest point in Portugal.
The Caribs did expand into the Caribbean Islands, many of which are smaller than, say, the Falklands. It's highly unlikely that large islands would have remained unsettled by neighboring tribes if they could have reached them--especially since we know that the distances involved do seem to preclude them having been reached. Oceanic transport is not a trivial invention.
I didn't say atoll. Migrate doesn't mean you have to colonize every way point.The op also said "fishing expedition" which doesn't mean colonization. You don't have to marry the first person you have sex with either. Tule reeds are common in North America. Totora reeds grow in South America. Chumash regularly traveled 22 miles between what is now Catalina Islands and LA. The Chumash are best known for their sewn-plank canoe called a tomol that ranged up to 30 feet long. Cuba is 93 miles from Florida. Pre-Columbian South Americans built reed boats. Heyerdahl went 5,000 miles across the Pacific in a reed boat. Falkland Islands are 300 miles east of South American southern Patagonia coast. Pre-Incan pottery shards found in the Galapagos by Heyerdahl and Arne SkjolsvoId during an expedition to the archipelago in January 1953. Galapagos are 563 miles west of Ecuador. Regarding the Galapagos, Incan oral history tells of king Tupac Yupanqui voyage to the west and discovery of two "Islands of Fire." The Galapagos were not colonized either. Not everything in Caribbean Islands is tropical paradise. From worldwildlife.org:
"Caribbean islands are often portrayed as lush tropical paradises, but Aruba, Bonaire and Curaçao are better described as desert scrub. The three islands, known locally as the ABC’s, are located 40-80 km off the coast of Venezuela just 12 N of the equator. Due to their leeward location, the islands receive only 350-550 mm of rain per year."
The Falklands are a pretty poor example imho. The fact that people were not there does not imply they couldn't get there. If they had no sheep, there would be no point staying.
I was responding to the assertion that European colonizers were discovering and claiming islands, specifically the Malvinas, from the backyard of indigenous peoples, of which they were totally ignorant.
Taino Indians got to Cuba from the Yucatan, which is a 135 mile sea voyage. The Galapagos Islands have pre-Incan pottery, and they are 563 miles west of South America. The Falkland Islands are around 200 miles from Isla de los Estados Island (reached by Fuegian Indians). So the Falklands (Malvinas) were very reachable. Very early Native American migrants were sea faring people who moved down along the North American and South American west coast then back up along the east coast. Haplogroup d4h3a found in bones at Prince of Wales Island on the Alaska panhandle, are 10,000 years old. Chumash who settled Channel Islands off southern California have haplogroup d4h3a, the Fuegians, who probably made it to the Falkland Islands, have haplogroup d4h3a. The Ainu people of Japan also built "lashed-canoes" -like the Chono and the Chumash (as well as dugouts), and they may have a link with the Amerindians. Like you say, oceanic transport is not trivial but Amerindians were doing it for distances over 100 miles for millennia.
What can we infer from that? Did the black slave owners own whites? For a short period, whites were even indentured servants. Are you going to equate white slavery experience with black slavery? How many blacks owned slaves, were they really black or mulatto, did ruling whites only accept that practice during a short early colonial period or did that practice proliferate until the Civil War? Could freemen be buying slaves to free a family member, where they actually were not subsequently treated as slaves?
The only question of yours that is not answered by the Wikipedia link I provided is the timing (although I'm sure you can google that ) - this went on from the very
beginning of the transatlantic slave trade in the U.S. all the way through the civil war.
And the point of course is that the civil war wasn't fought to abolish "the right of whites to own blacks" as things were a bit more complex than that. Cherokee Indians for example owned thousands of slaves too. There's a pretty interesting issue that goes on right now with descendants of Cherokee-owned slaves suing the Chetokee nation for the right to be a part of the Cherokee nation.
I still don't get the point you are trying to make. In 1830, 3,776 free blacks owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States. Many of those slaves owned by blacks may have been treated as slaves but many were also bought to be freed, as they were family members. Whites could be indentured servants but they were not slaves for life. By the 1700s indentured servants were scarce.
The point I'm trying to make is that the statement I originally replied to (with a quote so not sure what's not clear exactly) inaccurately states that the civil war was fought to abolish the system of ownership of blacks by whites.
Rich are blocking food to the poor in attempt to scare them from supporting the Bolivarian Revolution. Youtube videos also show Venezuelan stores hiding food to cause shortage.
Yes that's the story as told by the government and the state funded media like Telesur, your source.
They wouldn't say anything about how the food imports are controlled by the military and the government and how they've stolen more than $50 billion, as admitted by Chavez's former economic minister.
A lot more sources than Telesur but you have to look beyond Western news media. I hope the Venezuelan military does take control away from the US backed gusanos who are withholding food from the poor in an economic war to sabotage the Bolivarian Revolution. US orchestrated attacks can also be seen with the USAID fake 'Twitter' in Cuba to destabilize the government. ABC News even reported Peace Corps volunteers and a Fulbright scholar were asked by a U.S. Embassy official in Bolivia "to basically spy" on Cubans and Venezuelans in the country, according to the Peace Corps personnel and the Fulbright scholar involved. US interests can be seen with Brazilian vassel elites tied to US, orchestrating the impeachment of Brazil's Dilma Rousseff after NSA spied on Rousseff and discounting the 54 million-plus Brazilians who reelected her. You can see how the West respects Latin America with how Bolivia's Evo Morales had his government plane force landed and he was detained in Vienna. You can also look at how Venezuela's President Chavez, Honduras' President Zelaya, or Haiti's President Aristide were all kidnapped with Washington's blessings. Former covert agent John Stockwell says U.S. has killed 6 million in covert operations in the Third World. All this information does not come out of Telesur, and if you were half honest you would see a pattern here.
Why doesn't telesur say anything about the massive corruption of the government officials that have dilapidated more than $50billion dollars as admitted by chavista ex-ministers? Or the fact that most of the former productive lands and industries that were confiscated by Chavez are now broke and don't produce anything?
Look for the cases of Agroisleña, Fama de América, Sidor,the sugar factories all in govt hands, the formerly productive lands in Sur del Lago and a looong line of etceteras. Formerly productive industries that Chavez confiscated, put under supervision of corrupt military command that now don't produce anything.
Look for all the corruption in CADIVI, the agency in charge of the currency exchange that gave out billions of dollars to the military and their buddies The thousands of tons of food imported by the government for PDVAL left to rot in the ports of the country because once the food was bought and imported it didn't matter if it actually got to the stores.
Seriously, it gets tiring when someone that does not have the tiniest idea of what is actually going on in the country brings out the tired old argument that everything is the USA's fault.
You want the return of Venezuela to its former status as oil colony and wholly owned subsidiary of the United States. Tired argument? The 4 million dead in Middle East is the fault of the US and the Western allies. One need only look at the conspicuous reappearance of goods in the immediate aftermath of the right wing Unity Roundtable (MUD) victory in the December 2015 elections to see how connected the food supply problems are with political agendas. The oil collapse is an orchestrated assault on oil-producing nations targeted by the US.
See, this is where it's evident that you have no clue what you are talking about. There was no reappearance of goods after the MUD won! The government has actually been making fun of this because some of the MUD candidates said they would help the goods reappear once elected.
The shortage situation has been constant and getting worse since last year. I actually live here! I'm not reading about this from some government funded propaganda machine from the comfort of my fully stocked home.
You clearly have no more arguments beyond they tired old "everything us the US fault". I already gave you several examples of the government corruption that led us to this situation and you STILL come back and tell me about the middle east, oil colonies, how it's all a plot by the US, etc?
I should go to the food lines tomorrow and try to explain that to people. I bet it would go down really well with everyone there!
Haha your superior argumentative powers sure got me there!
Please, next time try to be better informed before making a fool of yourself.
I understand that the US has a shitty foreign policy, but that doesn't make every "antiimperialist" government the good guys. The world is not black and white.
Charles Graner, who supervised torture at Abu Ghraib, was appointed due to his experience as a prison guard at super-maximum prison SCI-Green in Pennsylvania. Graner was already involved in the SCI-Green prisoner abuse scandals and abusing his wife before his prisoner abuse at the center of the Abu Ghraib scandal.
