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No way, man.

US Sign English be like

  NOTICE: pursuant to USPCfFS 412/b Section 7 (a), pedestrians AND/OR passersby are hereby informed that disobeyance of this ordinance by any unauthorized party or parties towit any prohibited action including but not limited to treading, stamping, cartwheeling etc. without written or otherwise signalled express permission from the landowner or manager will be liable to legal action or violent retribution under said ordinance or bylaw for up to 25 days from the most recent observance of the offense or offensive behavior

    Trurl pulls up a chair and dictates: “Notice is hereby given that in re hindrance of tenant, as
    stated under Rev. Stat. c. 117(e) dash 2 dash KKP4 of the CTSP Comm. Code, in clear violation of
    paragraph 199, thereby constituting a most reprehendable offense, we do declare the termination,
    desummation and full cessation of all services accruing thereunto, by authority of Ordinance 67
    DPO No. 14(j) 1101 et seq., on this the 19th day of the 17th month of the current year, aff’g 77
    F. Supp. 301. The Tenant may appeal said action by extraordinary procedure to the Chairman of the
    Board within twenty-four hours.”

    Trurl attaches the seal, affixes the stamp, has it entered in the Central Ledger, consults the
    Official Register, and says:

    “Now let the mailman deliver it.”

    The mailman takes it, they wait, they wait, and the mailman returns.

    “Did you deliver it?” asks Trurl.

    “I did.”

    “And the return receipt?”

    “Here it is, signed on this line. And here’s the appeal.”

    Trurl takes the appeal and, without reading it at all, orders it returned to sender and writes
    diagonally across it: “Unacceptable—Proper Forms Not Attached.” And he signs his name illegibly.

    “And now,” he says, “to work!”
Ah, the power of bureaucracy.

daycare at say 14 sounds suboptimal

Each culture is a little different. What are you going to do with your kids when the parents are working is a problem? At what time do you trust them to stay home by themself?

In Soviet Union times in eighties in Belarus it was considered ok that a child could stay alone at home from age of 7 when they started a school. Some parents opted for after-school programs and some relied on grandmothers like it was for me but some of my schoolmates stayed at home alone for few hours until their mothers would be back from work (fathers typically worked longer and further away from home).

And from the age of 9 there was no after-school options at least in my school.


8-12 unless they have serious developmental issues. 15 is ridiculous

That is your opinion. Which is fine. However try not to judge others.

That was my experience and is my opinion, and I do try not to judge others, but 15 year olds are past the point where they can have jobs and are doing the babysitting. If my friend was treating their teenager this way—assuming their kid wasn't significantly mentally or physically handicapped—I'd ask them why they insist on maintaining such an absurd level of control as to infantilize said teenager on their way into secondary school. I wouldn't insult or suggest overall bad parenting—that's rude and not my place—but if they couldn't grapple with that, I'd probably question my relationship with them in much the same way I'd question my relationship with a parent who refused to let their kid learn about sex or evolution.

Based on their level of maturity and actual evident danger in the immediate surrounding area, 8 on the low end, 12 or maaybe 13 on the high end, anything higher and I'd say something's gone wrong, perhaps at the societal level.


> At what time do you trust them to stay home by themself?

As a GenXer, ~12 (?):

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latchkey_kid


Elder millennial here, though my sister was young GenX. I was born in '82, she was born in '79.

I'm pretty sure my parents stopped hiring baby sitters once my sister turned 12.

But even aside from that, I was allowed to play outside unsupervised at 7 years old. Though we did live on a Navy base at the time, so I wonder if that played a factor.


> Elder millennial here, though my sister was young GenX. I was born in '82, she was born in '79.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xennials


Where I live they are dismissed on their own as young as 8, and so long as they have a safe way home then a couple hours alone isn't going to hurt. There are enough electronic distractions at home now that they won't turn to delinquency.

15 is bonkers. There should be no need to keep your teenager on-leash for that long.


If I might ask, where do you live? In America a woman was arrested for letting her child walk in her own neighborhood. https://people.com/va-mom-convicted-for-letting-5-year-old-w...

That's extreme and unusual prosecutorial overreach to the point that it's making national news.

It's also unlikely that she will be convicted since VA passed a law in 2023 that makes it explicit that parents are allowed to let their children go places alone.


Canada. No gated suburb necessary, just a walkable neighbourhood.

If violence is the only way to profit from your art, it's not worth it for society.

former Tory minister spotted

If it can't phone home, it's not connected.

A technical solution would presumably spoof the spaff but with E2EE and DoH is it possible? So then what, hacking firmware? I guess then TVs get a hard lifespan limit.


So in the living room I should fap less... or more?

glib bullshit

> Four other rioters died of natural causes around the time of the riot.

At that rate, how many can even be left by now?


They don't need to respond before getting hit unless you can hit their secret submarines too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_of_last_resort



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