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This article makes Google look really bad.


We don't have Google's full perspective. But hearing that Ford brought an army of staffers in big gas guzzling Lincoln Navigators to make a splashy presentation and do a big deal, while Waymo was largely an advanced engineering team taking a careful smaller experimental approach... well then sure Google didn't handle the fantasy corporate deal that Ford imagined well at all.

Google had the pick of the litter between all the top car companies. Ford just thought they were way farther ahead than they were, the 'leak' to the press certainly didn't help, and were too focused on making a deal to impress Wall St instead of treating it like a collaborative tech project, which clashed with Google.

Ford's business development totally failed because they didn't understand the 'customer', what Google wanted out of the deal.

From the perspective that Google was feeling out the top automotive companies, while Ford acted like they already made the biggest deal in the self-driving car industry - when they really hadn't, they don't seem too bad to me at all.


Does it? The article made it sound like Ford's main goal was to appease Wall St, whereas Google was focused on actually building the damn thing.


That's my take on the situation too.


"self Indulgent empathy" Wtf is that? I can't help but say, that is the stupidest thing I have read all day.


Yup! Which is why brain drain to China will slow down imo. Unless they get a steady flow people wanting to get a dead end career there.


How much coding have you done in Haskell throughout your life? How comfortable are you with monads? Did you ever read the Baroque Cycle? Also, TYVM for doing this!


This is actually my first Haskell project. I feel pretty comfortable with monads, and I haven't read the Baroque Cycle yet. :-)


How did you get comfortable with Monads? I read this on Stack Overflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/44965/what-is-a-monad and it did clear things up a little, just interested in seeing people who have had success with Haskell weigh in.


Eric Schmidt makes Zuckerberg look like the idealized version of Mother Teresa.


Google is just as evil as Facebook, but they are more of a Tech darling (unless you have worked at both, Facebook just completely blows Google out of the water as a nicer place to work)


What if Facebook Released a Premium service, where you pay for the privilege of having no ads served to you? I am sure they have at least considered it a million times, and have decided it would be a bad idea.


you clearly are not well informed about VR if you think it is dead in the water. Have you even bothered to look at the Playstation VR? It has sold more units than Occulus and Vive combined, and has been out for way way way less time.


Hacker News has a heavy Google Bias. If you criticize google on here, half the time your comment will get shadow censored.


Such biases are almost always in the eye of the beholder.


Google seems to somehow avoid criticism for doing the same crap other companies do. They have had horrible problems with Sexual Harassment, just as bad and toxic as Uber, but the narrative is not there, just stop and think about that for a second.


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