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I wouldn't call what I did or even what I do as "extreme". Far from it. Taking steroids and growth hormone is extreme. Lifting weights and enjoying it to the point where you want to better yourself at it? I don't see it as extreme.

I also do not go several months without working out often. I did it during a shoulder surgery recovery and again earlier this year. I agree that is not a good idea, but life does get in the way sometimes and I was just pointing out that I'm no different than other people in that aspect.

I also wouldn't advocate that my way is the one true way. I will say that my results are probably pretty typical of what most people may experience when they actually decide to exercise.


> Lifting weights and enjoying it to the point where you want to better yourself at it? I don't see it as extreme.

I do. It is moving for the sake of moving rather than to achieve some productive effect. To me exercise is riding my to a place where I need to go rather than going by car if the distance is about right and the weather on the way out not too brutal. Walking, playing with the kids and so on. Lifting weights would indicate that I have calories to burn that go towards nothing else that helps. Usually at the end of the day I'm tired enough that I long for a bed rather than for more movement, especially not movement involving weights bought for the specific purpose of making that movement harder.

If I really did have energy to burn after a full day I'd probably take up some sport or spend that time and energy improving the place that I live in.


If you feel like you're lacking energy it could be that you're not eating enough calories during the day.

I took up resistance training a few months ago and it required I increase my daily calorie consumption by about 500kcal. I only realized how little I was eating after using an phone app to meticulously record everything I put in my mouth on a daily basis for a few weeks.

Since I started it really forced me to learn a lot about human physiology (because you can injure yourself if you do it with bad form), nutrition (because I want lean mass gain and optimal recovery), I sleep more (recovery) and stopped smoking. There's an amazing euphoric feeling after a heavy weightlifting session when you've got a good pump going. It can be quite a "technical" sport once you start factoring in all these things. The actual process of lifting a heavy object is the easy/least time consuming part.

Just yesterday I completely changed my sitting posture after I was having trouble with my infraspinatus muscle (bad posture at the desk). Now I'm finally sitting up straight at work because it negatively affects my weight lifting if I don't. Man there are so many benefits...


> Lifting weights would indicate that I have calories to burn that go towards nothing else that helps.

I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but this smacks of the whole calories-in-calories-out theory of weight gain that always comes up in diet threads in HN.

The reason I mention that is because I think programmers have a tendency to view things abstractly and quickly generalize. Sometimes this comes from an obsessive quality that makes us want to avoid spending any time thinking about anything that is not interesting work (witness the Soylent guy). However when it comes to the human body and our health reducing things to a simple equation comes at our own risk. Animal bodies evolved to survive and thrive under varied physical conditions and stresses.

If you don't like weightlifting then by all means do something else. But for all the people I hear complaining about RSI, and knowing what a combination of aggressive mountain biking and moderate weightlifting did for my RSI issues, I think it definitely comes with some very tangible benefits for programmers.


> Lifting weights would indicate that I have calories to burn that go towards nothing else that helps.

Resistance training does go to something. It goes to conditioning your muscles and building bone density which are both incredibly important the older you get.

I also agree one should do other things, which is why I mountain bike, do martial arts and kayak.


Lifting weights doesn't burn that many calories, compared to walking, running, etc. You can also have substantial strength gains by doing it just 2-3 times a week.

"Resistance training" gives you muscle mass so you can live longer. It gives you strength so you can do more in your daily life--lift a heavy object and without injuring yourself, for example. Having good leg strength can help prevent knee injury when you're out hiking with your kids.

Are you chopping and stacking wood at home? Lifting anything heavy (as trite as that sounds) at work? Or anything physically challenging that requires strength throughout the week? Chances are, like many of us geeks, the answer is no or very little. Lifting weights is a way to fix that. If you were working a physically demanding job, you wouldn't need to lift weights.

And anyway, don't interpret lifting weights too literally! Don't buy weights, use your body: pushups, pullups, etc. You can do pullups off the edge of a desk. Dips off the edge of a chair. Lunges and squats and "jumpy" versions thereof will give you plenty of leg and hip strength without any weights.


> Lifting weights doesn't burn that many calories, compared to walking, running, etc.

Doesn't increasing your muscle mass increase your metabolism? That is, your body's base calorie burn rate increases when you have more muscle to maintain.


Lifting weights is a sport. A solitary one, just like running or rock climbing. No need to disparage it.


If you exercised more, you would have more energy to burn.

Few things leaves you feeling more physically exhausted than being in bad shape.


For 48 I'm in excellent shape, thank you. In fact if you're over 30 I'll race you on any bike of your choosing ;)


yup, I used to exercise a lot and then I fell off the boat for about 5 years, simply because I no longer have a gym partner. Could feel my health failing. About three months ago I started doing the seven minute workouts, five or six times a week. I've been tweaking them a little bit, adding weights, changing exercise (but overall the idea is the same). I feel great. I think basically it boils down to: Commit to doing something that works for you, and stick to it.

Also, since I'm a lab scientist almost my entire time working is standing up.


Is it possible to get out of a contract with them over this without paying the ridiculous ETF? It states you can if they change you contract at all, and this constitutes a change to me, but does it with them?


Mike, what type of computer do you own? Does it use Intel hardware? Maybe it was created by Dell or Lenovo or somebody else? When someone asks you what type of computer you own do you say "It's an Intel/Dell" or "It's an Intel/Lenovo"? Or would you just say "It's a Dell"?


The term "computer" encompasses a wide variety of components. Had I purchased a PC from some specific company, such as Dell, stating that I have a "Dell computer" would indeed be accurate (stating "I have a Dell" is not technically correct; Dell is a company, not a computer). In a similar since, saying I use "Gentoo", "Trisquel", "Ubuntu", "Arch", etc is accurate.

I built my PC using hardware I purchased separately. I do see your argument - if someone asks me "what type of computer do you own", I would not list each hardware component individually. The problem is - that question is terribly vague. What type of computer do I own? Well, it's classified as a PC. Generally, when someone asks that question, they are looking for a specific company name. When I respond that I built my own, that answers their question.

If someone asks "what type of processor", I would then respond "I use an AMD-based system". In that sense, if someone asked what kernel I use, I would respond "I use a Linux-based system" --- they were specific enough to inquire about a specific component, so I would respond in such a way that answers their question.

"What operating system do you use?" Technically, I use GNU, and to those who understand what GNU is, I respond just like that --- "GNU". For those who may be unfamiliar with GNU, I will state "GNU with Linux" --- the GNU operating system with the Linux kernel. If I used GNU with another kernel, it is still GNU. Linux is one component of my operating system.

That said my display server, window manager, text editor, etc are also all useful components of my operating system. I would not say I use "GNU/X/Xmonad/Vim", simply because that is not a distinction commonly requested. Perhaps one day, if Wayland becomes popular, "GNU/Linux/X" would be useful/necessary.


My car engine is a Volkswagen and the entire vehicle consists of parts made by various other companies, but do you see anyone going around saying "I have a Brembo/Volkswagen" just because Volkswagen used some Brembo parts to build the car?

Look, GNU is super important and they have done amazing things for Free software. I heavily support them and the work they have done. However, I don't force people that use my Open Source software in their products to put the name of my organization at the front of their product name or label just because they use it to develop their product and neither do most other manufacturers of other products in the world.

Using Linux as a generic label to represent all the Linux based Distros out there is not unreasonable just as using "Volkswagen" isn't. There is no need to cram GNU down peoples throats and force them to write and/or say "GNU/Linux" anytime they refer generically to Linux. If you feel that way, at least be consistent with everything you own and start refering to it by both the components its built from as well as the product itself.


I wish there was a Linux distribution with the FreeBSD userland, just to bring up on occasions like this.


Linux Kernel with BSD userland?

(https://www.mirbsd.org/)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MirOS_BSD)

It's mostly OpenBSD. I haven't used it. I do know the BSD man pages are better (sometimes very very much better) than the Linux equivalents.


Great questions.


I agree with you. However, just because something isn't implied, doesn't mean it's not a good idea to do it. Charity isn't implied, but it's obvious we should do it in order to help people in need.

We all do open source because we simply love it and want to give a gift, like you said. However, whenever people give me a gift, no matter how bad or good it is, I feel it's my duty to at least say "Thanks!"


> Women: Need another beer? Let one of our friendly (female) event staff get that for you.

I must have missed this entire story, but is this really a line that people are upset over?

Can someone explain why? Maybe I'm not reading into it enough or there is some missing context? To me it seems like they're just saying another female will get them a beer if they want one. How is that offensive?


Yeah, that quote is out-of-context to the point of disingenuousness. Women are listed as one of the "great perks" that (male?) attendees can enjoy:

https://img.skitch.com/20120320-fmsc5mciy8e7n3nxhakmegxxg9.p...


Ah, Thank you! That definitely brings a lot more context into it and I can see how some may get offended by it.

I still question whether this is offensive to myself. Compared to the ads I hear on the radio and TV for local clubs and bars and how they're touting their female attendance or "hot bar tenders" as a reason to come, this seems relatively tame to that...


Don't take this as a dig at you, but I think that's a very revealing comparison. A hackathon is a professional event; people go there to code, not to hook up. Men are largely immune to being propositioned in professional spaces, partly because it just doesn't happen and partly because men perceive public space as "theirs" (there's research to show that women don't). So the cost to men of presenting this as a sexualized event is virtually nil or slightly positive. The cost to women, on the other hand, is phenomenal, because not only does it signal that this is an event where they'll be assessed by their tits rather than ability, but that the organizers of the event are likely to be indifferent or overtly hostile to problems of sexual harassment.

This is often a gedanken experiment that's often as distracting as it is illumination, but (assuming you're a straight man), imagine that 90% of programmers are gay or bisexual, and that one of the few hackathons available to you advertises itself by promising that "beefcake hunks" will fetch you drinks (which is just a couple of points down from the "massage" perk). Would that change your perception of the expected atmosphere of the hackathon?


Just because sexism exists elsewhere, doesn't make it any less sexist though, does it?


Well, for a start, these clubs and bars are presumably targeted at men. I personally, and I believe many people, find that sort of advertising distasteful, but their client base presumably puts up with it.

However, this event was targeted at the tech community. You know, the scary wimminz can program too. The implication of it being an all-male event is perhaps more worrying than the objectification.


Yeah, this blog-post assumed you already knew about the event, so did a poor job of setting the context. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3733948 (link to a comment I made earlier in the thread)


I don't see why... I've been able to do almost any color scheme from textmate or other editors. I have my favorite color scheme from textmate in VIM (Sunburst). Just make sure you're either using gvim or your terminal has 256 colors turned on.


The 256 color thing is the most important and was something I struggled with for a few years before I figured out the problem - on Linux it was always fine, but on OSX, wow it was bad. Couldn't figure out why till someone else said the fact same thing - 256 color mode.


The syntax schemes just either never have the number of unique keyword(-types) available or I assume since it's the case for every language I use... it's not possible with vim. If it is, then I lament the inferior set of default syntax highliting.

And yeah, I use gvim for the greater color palette. I'd take a screenshot, but my current tether is on 3G and my server is taking too long to launch Gvim over X


> Comment I read on that video page ended "Leave the poor guy and his wife alone!" They're millionaires, and there's really no way to paint this as "poor Kim" 

His douchebagginess aside; What does being a millionaire have anything to do with the situation? If someone is wronged for some reason people aren't allowed to have pity on them because they have a lot of money? That's kind of silly...


The reason I mention his wealth is not to suggest that it means he deserves less than somebody with no money - what I mean is that he flirted with the wrong side of the law, and he did it for money not morals, I'd care a lot more about him if he was fighting for the law to change, not just fighting to keep his cars.


Which wrong side of the law? He complied with the DMCA.


I haven't really been able to get a good shake on what the law will be for this situation, or what I believe the law should be here.

That having been said, its hard to think that they were in compliance with 17 USC §§ 512(c)(1)(a)(ii) - (iii) in particular. Continued safe harbor protection requires that mega-upload:

    (i)
    does not have actual knowledge that the material 
    or an activity using the material on the system 
    or network is infringing;
    (ii)
    in the absence of such actual knowledge, is not 
    aware of facts or circumstances from which 
    infringing activity is apparent; or
    (iii)
    upon obtaining such knowledge or awareness, 
    acts expeditiously to remove, or disable access 
    to, the material; 
I think it falls to a jury to determine if a 'reasonable person' would find that infringement was apparent to the mega-folks, but I don't think the "golly gee sucks, I just didn't know" defense is going to get them very far, especially in light of the emails in the indictment.


Respectfully, I believe you are wrong that the "golly gee shucks, I just didn't know" defense will be applied here. Under that statute, you see subsection a (parts i, ii, and iii). However, it goes on to explain in subsection b:

  (B) does not receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity, in a case in which the service provider has the right and ability to control such activity; and 
  (C) upon notification of claimed infringement as described in paragraph (3), responds expeditiously to remove, or disable access to, the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity. 
Under this, the only debate is section B, which is that this individual profited explicitly off of copyright material. He can argue he profited off of the service, and it was not being serviced for the use of explicitly copyrighting material.

As for section C, obviously in the article he not only took measures himself to try to stop copyright material once reported, but he even ALLOWED companys to do it themselves.

The jury can find this more than reasonable. And it can be argued from a legal point of view, moral or immoral. The defense is based on the statues protection, not the kindness of the courts.


https://ilt.eff.org/index.php/Copyright:_Digital_Millennium_...

Cases interpreting the “knowledge disqualifier” include Perfect 10 v. CCBill, 488 F.3d 1102, 1114 (9th Cir. 2007) (noncompliant notices do not count toward knowledge, use of “illegal” or “stolen” in domain name does not create red flag knowledge for hosting service); Io Group v. Veoh Networks, 586 F.Supp.2d 1132, 1148 (N.D. Cal. 2008) (“[A]pparent knowledge requires evidence that a service provider turned a blind eye to ‘red flags’ of obvious infringement.”); Corbis v. Amazon, 351 F. Supp. 2d 1090, 1108-09 (W.D. Wash. 2004) (neither general knowledge of infringement on the site nor third party notices are not enough to constitute a “red flag”); Hendrickson v. Amazon, 298 F. Supp. 2d 914, 917 (C.D. Cal. 2003) (Amazon lacked prospective knowledge of infringing DVD sales, even after rights holder informed it that the title in question had never been released on DVD); Hendrickson v. eBay, 165 F. Supp. 2d 1082, 1093 (C.D. Cal. 2001).

That said, MU might, in fact, be liable if it can be shown that they were aware of specific acts of infringement and did nothing, which some of the emails may, in fact, establish. After that, there's some question of how broadly the loss of safe harbor applies. I'm not sure that you lose all safe harbor protections for all infringement if you fail any particular red flag test. It seems to me that you ought to lose safe harbor only for those specific acts of infringement. But IANAL, and I'm not sure that point has ever been ruled on, so maybe we'll find out.


It's debatable whether he complied with it, that will be up to the courts to decide.

I said he flirted with it, not that he neccesarily crossed the line into illegality.


Outside the jurisdiction of the DMCA (the US).


This is good advice.

Whether you are standing or sitting, as long as you are sedentary, it doesn't make a difference. Both are bad. Sure, sitting can cause you to get varicose veins or carotid atherosclerosis, but standing in one spot all day has it's drawbacks too (http://www.hazards.org/standing/).

Sit for moderate periods of time and then move around for small periods of time during your work day. Also, exercise moderately at least a few times a week. It doesn't have to be go into the gym and push weights around or run on a treadmill for 30 minutes.. Do it at home. A good quick workout that will suffice for moderate exercise, requires little or no equipment and will get the heart working is as follows:

TABATA: 20 seconds of work followed by 10 seconds of rest == 1 set, 8 sets == 1 cycle.

Do each of the following exercises as fast as you can, in GOOD form, for 20 seconds. Then take 10 seconds of rest. Repeat 8 times. Work as hard as you can in good form for each 20 second interval. You should improve on the number of repetitions you do each week.

To track your progress, take the lowest number of reps done in a given cycle (one of the 20 second work periods out of the 8 sets) and write it down. Try to improve that number each week.

Do 1 exercise for each cycle: Pushups, Squats, Crunches, Burpee's (Squat thrust), Jump Rope

For example: Pushups, 1 cycle = 8 sets of 20 seconds or hard work followed by 10 seconds of rest.

Do as many pushups as you can in 20 seconds. Stop completely for 10 seconds, do not hold yourself up during this time. Lay down if you can. Start immediately after the 10 seconds is up and do it again.

I substitute my exercises every now and then. For instance, I may change Jump Rope out with rowing on a row machine or doing 20 second sprints. I will substitute Burpee's for Pullups.

Tabata can be as intense or easy as you allow it to be. It is not only outstanding anaerobic conditioning, but great muscular fitness and endurance as well. The best part is it will only take you 22 minutes (2 minutes of a light warm up is good before starting). I'm willing to bet that anyone can find 22 minutes twice week to help better their health. For the days in between your Tabata days, just do some moderate stuff like a nice 20 minute walk, go kayaking, hiking, biking, whatever...

If you're in a crunch for time, take 8 exercises and do 1 cycle. That's a 4 minute intense workout. Much better than no workout at all.

I do this myself and have seen the benefits. I don't run for exercise but was challenged to see how my mile run time would be. I finished the mile in 5 minutes. Not too shabby for somebody that doesn't run at all and only does anaerobic conditioning such as this, Muay Thai, Mountain biking and kayaking.


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