What are TURN and STUN?

Ways for punching through NAT. STUN lets you discover NAT addresses and the like to try and establish a connection with a port on the WAN IP, or some other connection mechanism. TURN is effectively a proxy that can be used by both sides to establish a connection through NAT.

Setting up a Jitsi server is non-trivial; this is simple (git clone / cd talk / npm install / npm start). And, if you don't want to trust the programme, you can do this from a dedicated unpriviledged user.

I thought so as well. Ended up rolling my own and encountering too many sync and error-handling issues.

Ended up deciding to spend the week configuring jitsi, but all it took was 1 hour to install and configure the server and I was done

Was this using Ubuntu or whatever it is they recommend or ``manually''?

Ubuntu, just apt install or whatever it was

The development of the frontend is a bit messy, but you'll manage

Same here. We use Jitsi inside our app for online learning. It works good.

Getting Jitsi running is actually trivial (depending on your definition of trivial). I went from zero to fully running in about 30 minutes on a fresh Ubuntu server when I wanted to check something one time. It might even be dockerized, but my memory isn't 100% on that.

Maybe on Ubuntu. I'm talking about the ``manual'' installation to which everyone not using Ubuntu must resort.

If you don't trust the app, don't run it. You'll be giving it access to video, voice and internet at minimum.

It’s always “just npm install.” IMO that’s no different than curl | sh; it’s easy to copy/paste but not simple.

If you have run the native programme (for me it keeps breaking up in the browser), run it from a dedicated unpriviledged user, without installing it on the system. (Run ./opt/zoom/ZoomLauncher.) If you have to log in (I couldn't change the input device without logging in), when your browser tries to open the not installed programme, copy the link and give it as a command-line argument to ZoomLauncher.

Looking forward to a working alternative.

It is also possible that certain styles of writing and clothing are felt by some to be more beautiful. It is not necessary to reduce every stylistic predilection to status or identity signalling.

One nice thing in zsh is that you can type `/u/lo/b<tab><return>` and be in `/usr/local/bin`.

This is one of my primary dislikes of zsh ...

Bash does the same thing here, typing tabs instead of slashes.

    /u<TAB>lo<TAB>b

same number of keystrokes actually

Not quite. Zsh can use the subfolders to disambiguate which parent you meant, bash can't.

Wow. While this is quite slick (and must have been funny to implement), I actually hate this kind of "magic" behavior.

I usually hate magic too, but I have to say this is one of the cases where I like it. It's convenient without any danger attached to it since you're just switching directory and not actually executing something against this "unknown" path.

How is it more or less magic than bash’s? It takes more context into account, sure, but it’s easy to understand and reason about.

For about a decade I've had in my bashrc

    C() { cd `$HOME/path-selector.sh "$@"`; }

where path-selector is from https://github.com/MarcWeber/path-selector

Opt-in bash extensions can do basically whatever people complain bash can't do. Though to be honest I don't use it that much over the last, say, 5 years. If I know a deep directory tree that well, I can just type it explicitly and/or tab complete it without losing much time. If I don't know it that well, FZF is quite nice.

"bash: /usr/local/bin/: Is a directory"

What to you have in your bashrc to allow cd'ing in directories without typing cd?

I prefer to type "cd", the directory-as-executable feature is a bit confusing for me.

But you can enable it in bash, the option has the same name as in zsh: autocd. Just run "shopt -s autocd".

Does that mean that a firmware backdoor is impossible or very unlikely?

Yes, it should be harder.

Are you saying a librebooted machine is still probably backdoored?

Precisely.

It's easy to find x200 etc. used. Flashing is another story.

> Flashing is another story.

https://tehnoetic.com/tet-lis

Blank keyboards also look better, especially these:

https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/