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"We have a million pieces of content to show you, but are not allowed to editorialize" sounds like a constraint that might just spark some interesting UI innovations.

Not being allowed to use the "feed" pattern to shovel content into users' willing gullets based on maximum predicted engagement is the kind of friction that might result in healthier patterns of engagement.


It reminds me of that Apple ad where a guy just rocks up to a meeting completely unprepared and spits out an AI summary to all his coworkers. Great job Apple, thanks for proving Graeber right all along.

Hrm. Mitchell has been very level-headed about AI tools, but this seems like a rare overstep into hype territory.

"This new thing that hasn't been shipped, tested, proven, in a public capacity on real projects should be the default experience going forwards" is a bit much.

I for one wouldn't prefer a pre-chewed machine analysis. That sounds like an interesting feature to explore, but why does it need to be forced into the spotlight?


For those who haven't seen it yet, this Wiki page also has what I think is very good advice about writing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing

While the page's purpose is to help editors detect AI contributions, you can also detect yourself doing these same things sometimes, and fix them.


Arcade Fire's song Deep Blue fits this mood well. And the album it's on, The Suburbs, is a story of civil war in suburban America.

Zulip was first released in 2012, Slack in 2013. Definitely not a clone.

Society is not telling her that - the labour market is. I guess she should get off her lazy ass and learn how to become a high frequency trader.

This has been my experience even before AI. We are a small bootstrapped company, and we have major competitors with free offerings and much more resources than we have (due to VC funding or other backing). While they've achieved some success, they've come nowhere near close to out-competing us.

Paying for AI is much more accessible than getting venture funding, so it's less of a differentiator. They could pay for more AI than we could, but that's already been true with humans, and it hasn't necessarily helped.

Knowing what to build is still the game. As well as the actual business side of business - building a trusted brand, relationships with customers, smart marketing etc.


> have a toggle for normal chat chronology/presentation

It does. https://zulip.com/help/general-chat-channels

But even without that, in a normal threaded channel, you can see all messages in all topics chronologically. IIRC that's the default view when you click a channel in the sidebar.

Here's an example: https://chat.zulip.org/#narrow/channel/138-user-questions the messages are grouped into runs of the same topic, but it's the whole channel.


mother of god. its perhaps time to revisit zulip. now if I could perhaps disable the topic group heading this would make perfect sense and effectively be a chatroom.

Yeah even as someone who prefers topics, I find the group header quite heavyweight.

Addendum: turns out, there is a design for lighter-weight headers, which I prefer. But they haven't gotten to it yet.

https://chat.zulip.org/#narrow/channel/101-design/topic/UI.2...


Zulip being fully open-source and self-hostable helps this. It's what the Bluesky team have been calling "credible exit", and Zulip has it way more than Bluesky does.

On the other hand, I would love to see more tech companies being co-operatives, where their members get a say in governance. That'd be the ultimate hard-mode for a business that was dedicated to being rugpull-resistant.


Agree on wanting to see more tech companies being cooperatives but not sure what you mean by this:

> That'd be the ultimate hard-mode for a business that was dedicated to being rugpull-resistant.


Being a cooperative seems (having never run one) harder than being a regular private company. It seems like it would constrain a business from being able to do what it would otherwise want to do. So I think of it as doing business "on hard mode". I think it's socially worth doing, and I aspire to be part of one someday. But I don't think it comes for free, especially in a market where you'll compete with businesses that aren't also playing on hard mode.

I see, I agree with it too. I think that's why many tech projects prefer a "private company owned by a non-profit foundation" structure such as Mozilla and Signal as the examples off the top of my head.

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