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It's unfair to brand all women like this... just the ones who engage in such activities on Lulu.

Obviously we all want people who are great in bed, look stunning and don't smell, but there's no need to publish this info and make people feel terrible about themselves.

All this bitching goes on in private, perhaps we just ought to leave it that way? Certainly don't need an app for it. Just degrading.


Would be interesting to see someone with a bit of spare time and cash take this to court. I wonder what the ruling would be.


The audio recording I made for Luluvise a few months ago for a video animation is pretty amusing too: - http://soundcloud.com/chrisleydon/luluvise-animation-audio

Makes you wonder if a service this shallow could ever take off.


I'll be interested to see how they respond to you uploading that.


So will I, however it was just a concept ad and I'm still the copyright holder. I make a habit of not selling my copyright when I freelance, or do work for favours, makes more financial sense to license it.


Thanks guys! It's only a version one document at the moment so we can update it with your feedback in the next version.


That's true for certain feature requests, but we're targeting support problems with this particular sheet. It's best not to assume that the customer is 'stupid' and instead see them on the same level as them, it's all about a mindset. If you go in with the customer is always wrong you won't go that extra step to try and help them, more dismiss them.


I've managed a high volume call center for 15 years and I agree with this very much. In my experience, it can be easy to view customers with cynicism. But answering an extreme principle with another extreme principle isn't useful, either.

I think it could be reworded and be more useful (see my comment further down).


I can understand where you're coming from. From a support mentality they have to be viewed as being right, although admittedly there are some customers that are probably worth losing in the long run.

The idea behind that point was more to push the team to get things right and go that extra mile to help the customer. If they're rude though then the rule doesn't apply.


From my perspective, customers should be viewed as having great value. This is an entirely different thing from saying that the customer is always right (which by the way contains the additional team-killing undercurrent of suggestion that management will always back the customer over their own employees).

Some customers will use vast amounts of your time and constantly expect you to accommodate them. Especially in a small operation, the customers that cause disproportionate expense are toxic. These are the ones that you need to actively fire, and the assumption that every customer is a good customer (or that every customer is right) quite simply precludes this option.


You're both right.

"Every model is wrong, but some are useful"

While it's technically correct that the customer is not always right. It is useful to push this mindset on employees who directly interact with costumers. Leaving to your employees to figure the gray areas by themselves my cause you a larger net headache than telling them there's no exceptions, when it might not always be true.


This is to be expected. Even for isp bandwidth 5% of the customers use 95% of the bandwidth. But like internet bandwidths, the 5% that use the most are also the most vocal. People communicate and the bigger pain they are, the more they communicate with others.


There will always be those few customers you are better of losing. But I don't think you want to dismiss a rude customer too quickly. I notice that many customers will initially approach a complaint or support need with rudeness/hostility, as they think it is more likely to get attention or to emphasize how much they have been put out. I often find that they can be quickly disarmed and be very nice to work with if you take the "kill 'em with kindness" approach. Don't go as far as to always say "you are right," but let them know you want to help them, even if they are not a delight to work with. These customers can become your biggest advocates.


Thoroughly enjoyed the first event!


Really impressed with the new design and tools provided by Version 4. Just keeps getting better and better!


Not a problem! Sorry it took so damn long. Next time we aim to have them shot in HD and a faster pull through. A budget would be a nice incentive ;)


Apologies, I'll pass on your feedback to the site's designer. Ir's in need of an overhaul anyway.


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