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This might also have to do with it being a preview, and only available on the global region?



Yes, I get the impression he has been fighting this fight internally since the day he arrived. He can’t exactly talk about how infuriating it must be, but I look forward to his memoir.


I just don't get this. Google has SO MANY THINGS that are US only. While most other companies release things to everyone (like OpenAI).

How does Google expect to compete with OpenAI globally if they keep limitting the rest of the world?


Google is an established business, OpenAI is desperately burning money trying to come up with a business plan. Exports controls and compliance probably isn't going to be today's problem for them, ever.


They don't, the Gemini crap is dead in the water and only people who care about it are hackernews people or some weirdos. For normies ChatGPT equals AI and that's that, they already won by the brand alone.

When normies hear Gemini, they cringe and get that icky feeling.

It didn't help that when Gemini came out it was giving you black founding fathers and Asian nazis.


My dad uses Gemini because it's the default thingy on his android phone - I asked him if he used ChatGPT and he said yes and navigated to Gemini. Most people really don't care that much I think.


What's not to get? Talk to your political representatives about reining in the EDPB if you want access to cutting edge features.

Or if you are not in the EU, spend more money I guess and become an attractive market.


"Ask your politicians to allow foreign companies free reign with users' data" is certainly a wild take.

It's google's choice to forgo privacy and thus a huge market like the EU. Other companies, like OpenAI, seem to manage fine.


At some point, Europe will learn that if they keep preventing international solutions without creating a climate in which similar or better local solutions can emerge, they are cutting their own nose to spite the face. There are secondary and tertiary effects of this, and eventually the 'huge market' will shrink in importance. I mean, Brazil is a huge market, and no-one cares about them thanks to brain-dead legislation concerning tech imports and economic irrelevance.


No one cares about it because you get robbed on gunpoint at the stoplights.

Again no one in Europe cares about some Gemini because frankly no one even knows what it is. They had their run with the black founding fathers and most people who tried it then dismissed it forever.

For normal people ChatGPT = AI.


I don't think this is true though. Lots of people around me use "ChatGPT" but then are actually using Gemini because that's what is on their phone.


You think normies even know what Gemini is LMAO. No one except some hackernews users and weirdos know it.


Maybe those features are illegal in every other country.


Its not by choice


70% goed to app devs (right?)


of course


The questions I ask ChatGPT have (almost) no monetary value for Google (programming, math, etc).

The questions I still ask Google, have a lot of monetary value (restaurants, cloths, movie, etc).


At that time, others companies were not building most of those things though.


And those that were building were basically doing research, not refining a product that had achieved product market fit. The gp makes it sound like they were manufacturing widgets. The existence of others in the market is better described as “other people were also able to attract funding for the potential payoffs in that field.”

It demands that google’s mopnshots need to be something no other investor has considered.

The same comment translated to 1965 — “The US is trying to get to the moon? Well Russia is trying too. So I’d hardly call it a “moonshot” “

(Edited to change typo of “potential layoffs” to “potential payoffs”, possibly more fitting though)


I don't know how or why, but yes, it has become less accurate over at least the last year or so.


When do the security releases stop? I was assuming for another year as I am currently downloading Android 14.

I was going to wait for Pixel 9 (currently also on Pixel 5).


This month. Android 14 is one of the last updates it will get IIRC.


I got a September security update for my Pixel 5, I think 2 days ago.


Huh, Pixel 7 Pro here and the last update, even after a manual check, is 5 August


I am from the Netherlands, and I never see prices without VAT on websites. What is an example?

Edit: not saying your lying, just thinking it might be geo related sometimes?


Prices without VAT are the main listed price on Dutch websites whose primary clientele isn't the end consumer.

Examples I remembered offhand: elektramat.nl, rvspaleis.nl

Those both list the price with VAT too, but the primary list price is without.

You'll find plenty of more examples e.g. if you think about what the house you're in is made of, and look for those materials in bulk. E.g. I-beams, pallets of wood, insulation etc.


Ahh yeah, websites targeting other businesses might give the ex-VAT price the preference. Although your 2 examples still show the price including VAT directly under the non-VAT price.


I was buying tickets for an upcoming music concert here in Amsterdam. The map showing prices in different sections was one price, but they wanted €74 extra in "total fees", and an additional €14 in VAT.


Sounds like a shady site. If you know Dutch you can report them using the meld.nl site.


That VAT only covers the extra fees; it's 21%.


I only noticed that after writing the comment. Still feels wrong to advertise one price, then sneak in "total fees" (whatever those are) in between the checkout flow and the payment processor page.


see: TicketMaster


Ticketmaster advertises the full price upfront in The Netherlands, no hidden fees that show up later.


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