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Yes, through MMS or RCS.

So, no. MMS is increasingly being discontinued in several regions, and RCS support is extremely patchy worldwide, especially on iOS.

Any company can ask for interoperatibility with whatsapp. None of them are, because it's obviously against their interests.

The DMA will change nothing in this regard because the "many apps" approach is the most beneficial to users.


> because it's obviously against their interests.

Why? I'd love to be an alternative whatsapp client with all kinds of new features that the official client doesn't have. Obviously you say you're building a compatible chat network, but the reality is users are just using your client to talk to whatsapp users.

Eg. one feature I'd love is some AI to automatically take any date and time someone mentions to me and put it as a draft event in my calendar. I miss so many events from big group chats I'm not paying proper attention to and suddenly everyone is saying "Whoa, you didn't come to Johns 50th birthday?!? Why not? We invited you months ago[in a group chat with 100 messages a day of mostly memes]"


> obviously against their interests

Would love to know how it is "obviously" against my interest to make a chat app and have 3.3 billion users adressable instantly. Bad for internet health to be still tied to Meta, sure, but the damage was done and this is a way to reverse it.


Why would you spend a lot of money to make a better app for whatsapp and let them keep all the revenue?

You won't get enough people to pay you money to use your app to make it profitable. If you think you will, then you have a business already; go build it!


> keep all the revenue

Which revenue? Whatsapp is for free, those 3.3 billion people use it for free, the revenue is the reselling of user data and showing them ads. Which they would do less with a 3rd party client, and as such Meta fights it tooth and nail.

> You won't get enough people to pay you money to use your app

It might surprise you but people build apps just for fun, free and open source for others to use, just to make the world better. Which really would be in this case, that's also the intention of this law.


We get it, you hate AI. Here, your gold star.

Depends if you see more of a threat coming from China or Israel.

100% Israel. China couldn't save tiktok but when tiktokers started criticizing Israel's actions in Gaza Israel got tiktok transferred to a zionist lighting quick with support from both American political parties and no 1st amendment concerns.

Its been a while now and I've wondered if anyone has recorded any hard data in how the acquisitions has shifted the platform. I just hope that someone is collecting hard records so we can see the damage after everything has played out over time.

As far as I can tell at least among the American left, criticism of israel has become so commonplace and part of the culture that its become a "memeable" event at this point.

I wonder how the Israel lobby will manage to turn that ship around at this point?


>I wonder how the Israel lobby will manage to turn that ship around at this point?

The effect of popular criticism of Israel in the US has been the normalization of mass censorship and deportation, and nil on Israeli policy or American support for it (other than being the catalyst for killing Kamala Harris' campaign.) The ship doesn't need to be turned around, it continues on its course unabated.

Last I heard Trump intends to pave Gaza over and sell the land for data centers to the Saudis.


Thats a short term solution to stop criticism that has essentially put more fuel on the fire. Millenials are start to take the reigns and I don't see a strong pro-Israel coalition among their cohort yet. They are likely being groomed but I dont think it will be a clear transition. Anti-Israel candidates are making moves and occasionally willing seats. If this accelerates they will play an important role in the future of American politics.

>Last I heard Trump intends to pave Gaza over and sell the land for data centers to the Saudis.

Honestly anything is possible. Maybe they will continue unabated and finish their project before Trump kicks the can. Maybe this upcoming Iran 'adventure' will be a massive disaster and will lead to a step change in hatred of Israel and anyone who supports them. I just dont see any of the old propaganda used in Iraq working this time around.

Maybe Israel completes their complete expulsion of Palestinians and then forms a solid base as the center of the middle east with everyone else being a vassal state. Would they even need the US at that point?


They can build whatever they want with lots of #hashtags and public money, but that doesn't mean they'll get 30% of French people to use it.

But of course they managed to cut themselves a nice salary with EU funds, paid in part by me and you, so that's all that matters.


The French government managed to rein in Amazon so traditional French stores, both online and brick and mortar ones, don't go bankrupt due to Amazon's unending pockets.

If they deem it necessary to rein in Google, they will rein in Google. There's no lack of tools for this, ranging from obliging phones sold in French territory to offer the French search engine as the default, to forcing every Google search result to promote the local search engine prominently, to campaigns about how it's important for national security not to rely on an adversary/enemy country's services, to everything in between and beyond.


Oh no, someone is making money outside of the big American monopolists. Quick, the vapors!

The landscape has completely shifted now; now more than ever, there's a real need for Europe to pivot from relying too much on an adversary.

> with lots of #hashtags

I missed this one. What was it about?


Click the link.

Which honestly no user cares about. They only care about whether it is good enough that they can use it. Marketshare only matters if you fear the vendor might shut it down, or if you are running ads.

OTOH, oil and gas prices in Europe are criminal, so there's that.

Europe has to import both, and the sellers tend to abuse Europe's dependency on it. Europe has what is becoming a survival interest to replace oil and gas as soon as possible.

Yes? All news articles contain a link to archive.is as a pinned comment.

There are no pinned comments here. Any archive.is links are posted by random members.

But are pinned by mods.

I don't see one here?

because this one isn't paywalled

Alright, that image made be really miss Lenna as an example image.

I understand why people avoid it now; however, having not seen the uncropped version for a long time initially, I have only warm associations.

IIRC Reddit used to have an option that only admins could see that would allow them to write comments under other accounts without going through the trouble of registering them/logging into them/etc.

Spanish here: I wouldn't go to war even for my own country, imagine for the likes of France or Germany.

80 years ago we were the bad guys, and far more brave people than me, from other countries, stepped up to curb the evil. This time us Germans need to be on the right side.

> This time us Germans need to be on the right side

Your country is the second largest weapons exporter to Israel.


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