As a semi-professional trombonist, C clefs are very important to me. Alto and tenor as-written, tenor as a means of transposing Bb treble, mezzo-soprano as a means of transposing F parts… they are not obsolete.
My favorite genre of hacker news comment is when someone lacks sufficient imagination to wonder why something that’s commonly used by many people is still in use
FWIW, there's no real need for imagination here. The comment says "mostly", and added a parenthetical comment that was simply meant to name the viola as a prominent remaining use.
In particular, trombones have almost entirely stopped using the tenor clef in jazz.
It's true that jazz charts are unlikely to use tenor clef. Nonetheless, it remains career limiting for a trombonist to be unable to read clefs.
Commercial players are likely to use the skill for transposing Bb treble lead sheets, or playing in a pit. Tenor clef shows up in modern musicals regularly.
Not to mention being shunned from quartet or choir opportunities that are the basis of networking in the industry.
Transposing is an important skill for all instruments. It's true that trombonists get some cases for free if they learn the tenor and alto clefs, but it's possible to learn it without knowing the C clefs.
And even trombonists have to learn how to handle sharps and flats in chromatic passages, so there's a lot more to transposing than using a different clef.
> Tenor clef shows up in modern musicals regularly.
They are QSFP56-DD which can be split using breakout cables. So it's 4 x 400GbE ports, which could in theory be split into as many as 32 x 50GbE ports. (Although whether that then ends up being an economical thing to do is a different matter.)
Ahh yeah, I've seen people using those. I was thinking you'd ideally want to connect them full speed, but it looks like they're 200gbps ports anyway, and I guess even if they were 400gpbs, you don't really need that much for cross-GPU traffic for MoE models doing tensor parallel.
I was single, living alone (+ 2 cats, if they count) in a one bedroom apartment in North Beach 15 years ago on a $90k/year salary. I even had a parking space and a car!
I can understand how people did it then - I was one of them - but I don't understand how they would do it now.
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