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of course; consciousness is a biologically inherited trait. that inheritance can't cross the human-machine interface.

I presume you used "biologically" to emphasise we don't yet know any non-biological consciousnesses, not that you determine, a priori, that the consciousness must be and is always rooted in the wet organic matter?

I don't think you could come up with a good theory for the latter and there's nothing that would preclude the existence of the artificial / inorganic consciousness - after all, correct me if I'm mistaken, we have no idea how the consciousness emerge in some biological entities.


That's what the paper's abstract says:

>Crucially, this argument does not rely on biological exclusivity. If an artificial system were ever conscious, it would be because of its specific physical constitution, never its syntactic architecture.


Yeah, this is why I wanted to understand what they were saying.

> consciousness is a biologically inherited trait

That consciousness is a biologically trait seems a common statement, but why "inherited"?


why? i'm not being snarky, i'm trying to figure out what we even consider consciousness to be nowadays and why it'd be limited to biological entities.

Sure if that's how you define consciousness. What do you want to call the machine version of the same phenomenon?

"Consciousness is magical and can only do things that I want it to, and none of the things that are uncomfortable to me. Of course I've not defined any of this so I can move the goal posts as needed"

why? they can get away with it, and you can't.


it's Catch-22. the world is such a mess that if you're happy, you must be delusional.


I'm not the world, I just live in it. It might be a mess, but that mess mostly doesn't affect me. The few ways in which it does can be effectively mitigated by anyone who puts in even the tiniest bit of effort.

For that matter, nothing much stops me from carving out my own little world where I can clean up what mess it is, and live there. But to do that I'd have to admit to myself that I can't change the greater world and even acknowledge that there's no real point in wanting that other than to chase high status among our monkey tribe.


> But to do that I'd have to admit to myself that I can't change the greater world

Do you though? Can't we believe that change is possible, but also choose not to act on it? Not saying that's right or wrong, just that it's possible.


hard disagree. I think you can be happy about some things and not about others, and it's not so black-and-white.


Replace 'happy' with 'neurotic' and you got it!


the beach. mantras. tapasya.


I’m building an experiment called Advaita Inquiry Matrix (AIM).

AIM is an AI-assisted system that models the pedagogical method of Advaita Vedānta. Not a “guru bot,” not mystical content generation or scriptural imitation — but a rule-governed Socratic dialogue system that automates structured ontological inquiry as far as possible.

The idea: • Use a YAML-tagged corpus (Upaniṣads, Śaṅkara, etc.) • Track a student’s conceptual state over time • Dynamically select passages and questions • Apply formal teaching methods (negation, identity statements, paradox, state analysis) • Use constrained Socratic dialogue to expose contradictions

Advaita has a surprisingly rigorous epistemology. The teaching unfolds in a precise sequence. That makes it amenable to: • Semantic tagging • State-machine modeling • Concept graphs • Agent orchestration

The human teacher remains curator and final authority. The system handles structured mediation between text and student.

If you’re interested in AI-mediated pedagogy, knowledge representation, or formal dialogue systems, I’d welcome critique or collaboration.

— Dev


translation: "96% of people trying to replace workers with AI don't know how to prompt it effectively or supervise its output."


The 4% is using it to write posts about ai on linkedin.


So what you're saying is the interface fails the common case?


Or they've determined that micromanaging it is circuitous and increases their dependence on tech giants, so it's a bad deal given that they also need to know the work well enough to verify it anyway.


96% are "holding it wrong".

There's a saying that if everywhere you go it smells like shit, you might just have some shit smeared on your own nose.

96% is not "holding it wrong".


why would he give up on FSD? they're both impossible problems with today's tech. maybe it was deliberate overreach, maybe hubris; maybe some of both.


if you oppose anything, you're not a pacifist.


One can oppose something peacefully.

Which is not to say I can make heads or tails of OP’s claims, which are just this side of word salad.


The similarity is that of the Pentagon supplying fake attraction of thousands of people, whether bot or coerced human.


they will fail. why? same reason as every other attempt to examine consciousness ‘scientifically’: consciousness cannot be observed.

“How can one know That by which everything is known? How can one know the Knower?” —- Bṛhadāraṇyakopaniṣad


hell, i got busted in 4th grade for using a slide rule to do boring math stuff.


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