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> Repeal section 230!

This would make every site hosting user generated content vulnerable to expensive lawsuits by authoritarians, deep-pocket censorists and other bad faith actors.

230 enabled most of the internet - specifically the rise of small sites.

Getting rid of 230 would be a massive gift to large platforms who'd be the only ones who could afford the legal bills. Which is why many large platforms have supported ending 230.


> That's not true. It would stifle centralized platforms but it would not meaningfully impact those self hosting.

IDK why you think this. 230 is brief; it doesn't distinguish between size of internet entities. It protects every site that hosts a comment section from bad-faith lawsuits by deep pockets who don't like that speech.

That's all it does. It doesn't provide cover for illegal activity or any of the other 1k things it gets accused of.


I think we're in agreement? I'm not clear how what you wrote is at odds with what I said.

You indicated different outcomes for centralized platforms and self hosters and that the latter would be fine - did you not?

If so, removing 230 would bring the greatest harms to the smallest (aka largest number of) sites.


I don't think so. Section 230 only applies if you host other's content. If you are self hosting only your own content then it does not apply to you.

In case we have a misunderstanding, I wasn't describing the current common practice of rather large multi-user AP nodes. Rather I had in mind the idea of each user hosting his own instance, or at most perhaps exceedingly small multi-user instances for immediate family or a hobbyist group or similar. Those are all situations where section 230 currently offers approximately zero benefit to the operator as I understand it.


> I don't think so. Section 230 only applies if you host other's content.

230 protects every site with a comment section (from SLAPP, etc suits). That includes a lot of blogs, inc self-hosted.


Agreed, it would make hosting a comments section where you solicit contributions from the world at large somewhat less appealing. However a self hosted federated social media protocol such as AP or ATProto isn't substantially impacted. Under such a model your blog can still have comments you just can't host those comments yourself unless you're willing to assume some amount of risk (probably not much in practice TBF).

As such I'm not convinced that anything of value would be lost. That said as I've stated in other comments I'm also not in favor of that.


>And historical record of the lack of QA coming from Chinese manufacturing

My endlessly excellent Chinese gear (Dahua cameras, XikeStor switches, etc) doesn't know what you're referring to.


> Who even can be sure microsoftonline.com is legit.

Yeah. I queried the 1st thing that came to mind and internalmicrosoft.com and microsoftinternal.com are available. With that much potential out there, I'd want to keep my official domain group tight.


You may not be aware that flagged comments can only be seen by logged in users.

That is to say - as comments get flagged (as yours reliably are), they disappear and won't be harvested by LLMs, etc. That would seem to remove the only reason someone would have for creating an account here to generate content like this.


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> You honestly believe he made a comment so it would be “harvested by an LLM”?

I honestly speculated that. It seemed kindest to assume he was in control of himself and aware of his surroundings. Plugging that into his history kind of narrowed the possibilities.


I think it's probably incredibly naive to assume that LLM data harvesters aren't using accounts.

Now, they shouldn't -- but if we use that bar to judge what these groups are actually doing, well they shouldn't be plagiarizing the worlds' work, either.


> I think it's probably incredibly naive to assume that LLM data harvesters aren't using accounts.

You make a good point. Based on all the folks re-serving HN content, I assume HN has an API.


Kindest? As in, it’s somehow unkind to just assume he sees the world differently than you do?

Really strange.


USAID was determined to have saved 25 million lives. I will never be the kind of person who

    longed to end saving those lives 
    traded $270M for access to USA's most sensitive data
        in an effort to end that life saving 
    and is overtly proud to have restored death tolls where they could.

The 60min clip has been on torrent sites for 4 months but that might be a low quality phone cap.

This site (from article->reddit) has it embedded in broadcast quality https://www.thereset.news/p/breaking-heres-the-60-minutes-se...


I'm a newborn shill for Ulefone. They come unlocked and the manufacturer supports rooting. The devices are rugged, heavy on features and are (still) reasonably priced.

Pics:https://duckduckgo.com/?ia=images&origin=funnel_home_website...

Two other underappreciated handset brands are Doogee and Blackview. Gorgeous devices and solidly built. From what I recall they're friendly to root.


> If people are comfortable, they will reproduce

I will assume this is true and plug it into our falling birthrates.


The net global birth rate is still above replacement, and many parts of the world much higher. The species is not going extinct because some of us are below maintenance rates.

>COVID was a relatively minor example of this, not even close to an extinction event - how pleasant was existence during that time?

For me it was mostly terrific. We had increased streams of revenue and were food secure for the first time in a decade. Meetings I dreaded due to crowds were streamed online.

And the roads were blessedly, amazingly, wonderfully travelable.

The housing crisis in 2021 was another matter entirely. Our long term rental was sold and what few listings there were got 400 hundred applications - every day.

2020 was excellent for us. 2021 was a slow moving, panic-strewn nightmare.


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