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Upgrade that PC's OS drive to a NVMe. Seriously. We manage thousands of PCs at work and ever since we got laptop models with NVMe drives, updates are a breeze with 6 ± 3 minutes of total downtime.


Oh, OK. It's a PEBKAC case, then, my bad.

I'd rather teach my parents to use Linux instead. Updates will be a breeze with 3±2 minutes of total background work without any interruption and 30 seconds of occasional downtime.


I have no idea how you got to "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair" given that I literally blamed the slow OS disk drive inside the computer based on thousands of data points on my end.


Hey, no, I don’t dispute your data points at all. A bog standard NVMe can handle ~1MIOPS these days, and it’s above and beyond what SATA SSDs can provide.

What I’m against is tolerating a bad OS design with more capable hardware and allowing Microsoft to worsen the experience. This is a pattern of Microsoft since forever.

Oh, that particular PC has no NVMe support anyway. I don’t know why that M.2 port is SATA only.

Especially when every other major OS can handle this more gracefully. I can version upgrade a fully loaded Debian installation in less than 6 minutes, reboot included, on a SATA disk, for example.

Also, while tangential, Windows providing the worst update experience, and calling Linux a major, mainstream OS superior in some ways feels unbelievable when I look back a decade.


This is Wizard News after all.


Case sensitivity on Windows?


We just began testing the upgrade to 24H2 this week and haven't noticed the issue on any of our test machines (about 80 amd64 devices and VMs so far).


You could hope that Android Studio's emulator / modded Waydroid or WSA would work for a while. At most you'd be buying time. Seriously, just keep the phone and fix your own unwanted habits instead. You'd be wasting your time fighting the checks and blocks they have put in place. At some point strict hardware attestation will be both very strong and ubiquitous enough that it will be impossible to run apps with high security requirements in custom environments. Google and Apple have no incentive to let loose either, unless they are forced to, which I unfortunately don't see happening.


This is true, but it can't be reduced to just a habit problem. While habit is certainly a part of it, the bigger issue is that it's nearly impossible to exist without relying on a piece of shady technology that's now seen as proof of existence. My computer is more than capable of doing everything a phone can do, and our existence should be verified in less intrusive ways than through constant tracking of our location and habits.


FYI this is a Windows vNext build and the current placeholder name for its development branch is XY30H1. It is not launching anytime soon.


Well, that's your problem, dude. :)


I would assume there is no vodka in a mocktail...


Constantly? My friends and I hardly ever talk about computers, and that's how it is for most people. What you are suggesting would be a very weird habit. Your friends have agency, are allowed to like or not care about Recall, and needn't be nannied the whole time. Reminder: being more tech-literate than the average person doesn't grant anyone the right to be annoying about such topics. Cherish the time with your friends instead.


I find it the opposite where friends lean on my support.

I didn't mean constantly as in nagging. I meant constantly as in how often MS would have the opportunity to break this with their updates


25 years ago is not "recently".


In technology years it's getting longer every year.


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