> Or are you one of those hardcore audiophiles who can't listen to music without a ultra high end sound system?

Music lovers buy stereo systems to listen to their music.

Audiophiles buy music to listen to their stereo systems.

Is it that high? I know that in my Audis, there's actually a system that (in sport mode) pumps engine noise -into- the cabin because the sound damping was that good. And my partner's A4 is at the point where you hear only tire noise, not engine noise.

And I used to own a Jaguar XJ that (while the car itself I had to get rid of after the entire cooling system shit the bed for the second time) was the quietest car I've ever owned and not even close, despite being a 5L V8. (The Jaguar also had probably the best sound system I've heard in a vehicle - 1200W B&W 7.1 channel, 20 transducers).

Oh, I'm confused, I was told there were "MASSIVE" (with lots of emphasis) improvements to the processor, battery life, the camera!

On the camera side I see "more post processing"... cool?

You imagine so but it would be difficult to imagine a situation where Apple would be liable, so their level of concern would be much lower.

Otherwise, manufacturers of digital voice recorders, etc., would also be fearful.

Well, other than being 10 years old, having 100,000 miles on it, most likely needing a new timing chain, suspension, and generally needing a new cooling system, sure.

That's why they're $10K.

Meanwhile for about the same price differential, $10K on eBay will get you an Audi RS 5 ... engine ... with 60K on it.

I don't know that the Ghibli makes the point you want to make.

> I don't know that the Ghibli makes the point you want to make.

What point do you think I was trying to make? ivraatiems compared what he paid for a used iPhone on eBay to a new iPhone four years newer, and then said this was an absurd price difference because 8x price gets you way more car.

All I did is point out that this is a bullshit comparison because of course you can buy an older, used product way cheaper than a brand new one. I chose the Ghibli because it is one of the more entertaining (and repeatable every year, there are lots of gluttons for punishment out there it seems) examples of fast depreciating cars. To varying degrees this example could use any product, but ivraatiems chose cars so I ran with it.

I get the form factor difference but Windows Hello (which actually works extremely well, probably due to its incubation with Xbox) came out two years before FaceID.

Anecdata of course, but my experience with Windows Hello is that it only works under perfect circumstances. Me just being positioned slightly differently in my chair is enough for it to not recognize me. As opposed to FaceID that has (for me) worked flawlessly for these past almost ten years.

I loved the disclaimer at the end of the iPhone Pro model that felt distinctly non-Apple and more akin to a drug commercial, "Usage of heavier models may be limited. Subscribers to certain iCloud+ plans will likely receive higher usage quotas. Now here's Sri to talk about electronics!"

And it's not even that they said that, I get marketing spiel but one the actual phrases was, emphasis his, not mine:

"MASSIVE improvements in Camera". Where? Evolution, refinement, sure. Massive? Hm.

Canon's original high end digital models had this as a feature, that your images could be digitally signed in-camera based on raw sensor data. Primarily for law enforcement. Obviously a far broarder use case, now.

Anyone requiring that kind of support is likely hitting up Red Hat for OpenShift Virtualization (despite what warts that has, Red Hat meets the "organizational need for support part of the RFPs).