> full web app

Which features do they not support?

It's not a box that runs a browser. Apps for Roku are built with a special, limited language where TVE is in Typescript.

Why doesn’t each of your users have a SQLite database writing up to a main?

You can have as many as you want - and one is often plenty.

Is it “I like cleaning”,

or “I benefit from knowing some moron didn’t come flood the cracks of my floors and wood cabinetry, creating mold”?

Yet to come across pros doing it better than me, means I don’t hire pros yet.

Some will, but the levels of disrespect required toward one’s employee - and oneself - required, is quite high.

and yet.

Spideroak,

pCloud,

Resilio Sync.

May be worth reviewing.

Because it’s not a Temu problem,

it’s a problem of allowing the collapse of your own civilization?

A major retailer in my country had to recall thousands of units of kids kinetic sand because it contained asbestos. Are you saying we'd be better off had they not been made to recall these? Or that we'd be worse off had there been more regulation preventing kids from inhaling asbestos in the first place?

Nope.

With that thinking, people would still be buying unlabelled arsenic wallpaper.

Consumer standards are a net benefit to society.

> and people are (incorrectly and dangerously) expecting to be protected now.

The general public hasn’t the faintest idea how to differentiate between a safe product and an unsafe one, and they shouldn’t have to

Then, that marketplace has no viable business. Society does not owe them anything. Seriously, if your business model requires you to sell illegal stuff, then your company does not deserve to survive. That’s the basics of regulation.

You're assuming the conclusion. Why is it the marketplace platform who should be the police? Should banks have to audit your life before you can open a bank account? Should you be unable to transact with anyone if you're not rich enough for them to justify that expense?

It's not Walmart you're proposing to unperson here.

The sellers are in practice anonymous, and the consumer facing Temu (or Shein, or Aliexpress, etc) very much markets to consumers, yet shirk any responsibility. They are Walmart but ignore the little accountability Walmart faces.

Of course Temu is responsible for things I buy in the Temu app, and pay Temu for, which then Temu ships to me.

> The sellers are in practice anonymous, and the consumer facing Temu (or Shein, or Aliexpress, etc) very much markets to consumers, yet shirk any responsibility. They are Walmart but ignore the little accountability Walmart faces.

They are not Walmart.

> Of course Temu is responsible for things I buy in the Temu app, and pay Temu for, which then Temu ships to me.

If you send money to someone in the PayPal app, are they responsible for what you bought? Not just for giving you a refund; for having liability if your house burns down. If the seller keeps their inventory in a rented space, should you be able to sue their landlord? If FedEx delivers a package to you, are they responsible for the regulatory compliance of what's inside?

Consider what would happen if you did that. Could a normal person buy or sell something or rent space or send packages, if the intermediary had to take on liability for anything you do with it?

Paypal is not fronting products or shipping them.

So you want to sue Craigslist or FedEx?

And yet you still have children chewing toxic chunks of gypsum drywall,

because people now assume if you can buy it, it’s safe,

because their responsibility has been relieved of them.

I'm not understanding your example; as far as I know gypsum/gypsum drywall isn't toxic.

If you let your kid eat drywall compounds, and inhale drywall dust in the process, you’re not only missing my point, you’re proving it.

It's all fun and games until your neighbour in a terraced house or apartment building unwittingly starts an uncontrollable battery fire. Electric scooters and those 'hoover boards' from a few years ago are notorious when it comes to that, but plenty of underspecced small electronics will fail spectacularly.

That’s harder to disagree with,

but, you’re only going to achieve moving the cheapo builders stateside where they’re easier to enforce on.

That race to the bottom isn’t going anywhere - if someone can save a grand half-heartedly wrapping their own packs, they’re going to.

Personally I’m happy to not have to perform that level personal due diligence for all aspects of my consumption and engagement with society and to instead pay more to reduce my risk via regulation, even if that’s less effective.

And I think that sentiment is significantly more representative of the populace outside of some edge cases around speech and vices. The vast majority of people do not want to have to investigate if their food has too much rat shit in it. They want the rat shit out of the meat or the meat not to be on the shelves.

Are parents supposed to perform safety and toxicity testing on all products they buy?

“Supposed to”?

I’ll do whatever reading, and due diligence keeps my family safe.

I’ll abstain from things until I’m sure.

Others might choose the same.

How can you be sure? How can you get the information to know whether or not your children's toys, your medicines, your electic equipment, wall paint, food, and everything else you consume or use is safe?

You can't. So... abstain from everything? Make everything yourself - how will you have time with a job? Will you know the food you grow is safe and that your ground isn't polluted with things you can't test for at home? How about the equipment used to make that food - is the metal in that plow made of lead? Is the engine on the tractor safe?

Your due diligence is only possible because other people - usually with specialized education and/or experience - have made laws and standards to keep you safe. You don't have to personally check everything.

I don’t need to know if the plow has lead - I just test the Cheerios.

Try again.

You can answer the questions the exact same ways the other path uses,

yes,

and often with more rigor/vigor than just “legal minimum”.

I seriously doubt you check every batch of foodstuffs entering your house.

Good thing that’s not what was claimed!

You don’t need to check every box of Cheerios to know to avoid Cheerios.

I’ll review - as deeply as possible - the supply chains for my meats, produce, etc.

The more local you go, the more possible this becomes.

You are believing a lie, then, and seem to have missed the point.

You simply cannot have the knowledge to know if everything is safe - no matter what your specialty, there are things you'll have to just trust others for safety. Sure, you might buy a lead test kit that someone else has made, but the only way to know that the test kit works is to monitor your family for lead poisoning unless you have specialized knowledge. And if you have that specialized knowledge, it'll come at the cost of other specialized knowledge. You can't personally know if that bridge you drive on is safe AND know about the metal in your plow AND know if the light bulb you bough is a hazard AND know that your antibiotic matches the label on the box instead of it being that one you are allergic to AND know all the other stuff is safe.

Everything requires trust in products or services unless you have information.

Yes, trust is earned.

General Mills hasn’t earned that trust.

I specifically addressed why I don’t need to know what metal is in the plow

to review end-products,

and you chose to ignore that point

and just talk some more.

I used the plow as an example in a list of things to illustrate the varied information you need to verify things and to illustrate that you can't simply do research on everything. Maybe you missed that?

You can't trust the company making the lead test kits any more than you can trust General Mills. How would you know the tests are real, especially without a regulating body to verify that stuff?

What if it isn't General Mills and Cheerios? Do you test everything that comes in contact with your food? What is in their plows?

You aren't just testing the Cheerios. You are just choosing to trust one thing instead of another and you simply cannot have time to test all of the Cheerios in addition to the other things in life.

To continue with your example:

Lead tests, and lead-testing labs, stay around by being accurate, reproducible science.

General Mills stays around by putting out wholesome commercials so you buy their slop.

My family and I could eat a total of 10 food products.

You don’t know my life, don’t project yours.

There are markings that certify that some things are safe according to some standards. You are not in a situation to know what actually is safe or to be able to test it (really, you are not; if you think you are, go talk to your nearest electrical engineer, chemist, or molecular biologist who will provide you several examples of the limitations of your knowledge and abilities). Therefore, trusting those certifications is important, and companies that falsify them must be punished so they stop doing so. It’s not complicated and that’s the whole point of the procedure (and the fine).

> whatever reading, and due diligence keeps my family safe.

We’re not disagreeing.

Flock brand?

Yup. Gen1 unit with the standard square Flock panel and black pole they always use.

https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/1tofx8e/...

As horrifying as that image first appears, it turns out that's actually located adjacent to a road between two subdivisions in Mission Viejo CA. The picture conveniently had all of that cropped out though. It would appear that someone rotated the camera so it no longer faces the road.

Nobody’s talking about how much money it is to them,

to some degree, that’s our employees and often our money - it’s our concept of how much money is okay to fuck around with that matters.