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Counterpoint: make is good actually, you should learn it (like all such tools).


F* also uses SAT/SMT, specifically Z3.


Sure, what I meant is that Dafny outsources everything to SAT/SMT. If it doesn't manage to prove things for you, it gets a bit frustrating as there is not much support for manual tactics compared to F*, Coq or Isabelle, which can also leverage SAT/SMT, but have other options.


Yes. This is a dead giveaway that the author is not a native English speaker. And overall it gives the project a mid vibe.


Give it a rest.


That’s a false dichotomy. I’ve never felt the need to do the DS&A grind for one of these roles and I would never dream of writing the ungodly inefficient code you just imputed to my peer group.


Any respectable employer/employee relationship transacts on results rather than time anyway. Not sure the analogy is very applicable in that light.


> Any respectable employer/employee relationship transacts on results rather than time anyway.

No. This may be common in freelance contracts, but is almost never the case in employment contracts, which specify a time-based compensation (usually either per hour or per month).


I believe parent's point was that if ones management is clueless as to how to measure output and compensation/continued employment is unlinked from same... one is probably working for a bad company.


Yea, I said ‘respectable’.


That's just not how employment laws are written.


Employment law actually permits per-piece payments too, albeit that type of pay scale is rare.


It is!


I betcha it wasn’t perfectly through word choice alone as I can think of a few “tricks” that could be deployed undetectably.


Like what? I would think you could hide much in mono ASCII.


Since when is the firee’s future employment prospects any business of the company doing the firing?


The previous comment capstoned the discussion by concluding, correctly imo, that this is a cooperative, non-zero sum game.


Well, in the current culture, if you get a reputation for firing people three months after hiring them, you'll have an awfully hard time finding people who want to work for you. And you will probably see your best workers leaving to work elsewhere.


It hasn’t been since we’ve elevated sociopathic techbros to near god status. You might also remember it as human decency.


But good college math departments teach reverse Polish notation; i.e., Hewlett-Packard over Texas Instruments. It’s demonstrably more advanced / efficient.


Clojure has all those other braces also. They’re just used for data structure literals rather than blocks of code.


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