Considering one of Musk's pressing priorities with grok was waifu girls, and the weird 'pedo guy' accusation (projection?), I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if there was more to this story.
I believe it very likely that some extremely well known people are in there, and whom politicians are desperate to defend, if not themselves.
The problem is that Epstein loved to hang around celebrities who presumably had no interest in his crimes, or who were only connected by financial matters.
There is a map of his known contacts. No implication. "We mapped Jeffrey Epstein's social network. Here's what we found." [0]
1. This is a national security matter. Epstein's business, such as it was, wasn't pimping the underage to rich men, it was blackmailing for his own account and selling blackmail material to anyone willing to pay him enough. That means state actors. And that means we can't trust anyone who was in Epstein's circle with national security work.
2. It wasn't just underage females. Gay men can be blackmailed, too.
Am I the only person who thought they would have burned everything in a dumpster by now, and degaussed every hard drive and just denied that Epstein even existed? Given how much effort they were putting into prevaricating, claiming it was all a Democrat hoax, that no such files existed, or that Epstein never did anything wrong? Wasn't Ghislane moved to Texas to shut her up?
That there are actually still files to release is baffling. I assume the release was judiciously selective and that none of the files will implicate Trump, and all of them will implicate Democrats and people he doesn't like.
> I assume the release was judiciously selective and that none of the files will implicate Trump, and all of them will implicate Democrats and people he doesn't like.
From the subheading of the fine article:
>> The Duke of York is named as a passenger on the sex offender's private jet in documents released by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee in the US.
Unless there's some other group of Democrats who are releasing these documents, I doubt it'll be so selective as to avoid naming Trump and implicate many Democrats instead.
The first filter is the CIA staffers and computers in the Senate, the second filter is the Senators themselves.. That leaves politically neutral leaks or a total pariah.
These files are worth their weight in gold if they actually do have compromising data on many different people in power. Lists of people who flew on Epstein's plane is hardly incriminating from a legal perspective, it's only valuable for cancelling others. It's the suspected pictures and videos of the rich and powerful in compromising positions with underage girls that we'll never see, assuming they do exist. Unless someone doesn't play ball, that is.
Yes, I'm a cynic, but if there wasn't much there they wouldn't be playing so many games.
>They show Musk as a potential visitor to Epstein's island, Little St James, on 6 December 2014 - six years after Epstein became a listed sex offender.
even Trump had supposedly broken contact with him long before then..
edit: considering Theil is also in there too. I wonder do they want to avoid revealing where Epstein's money went after he died?
His name appears on what appears to be Epstein's daily schedule, with the entry reading: "Reminder: Elon Musk to island Dec.6 (is this still happening?)"
Agreed. The idea that no one is above the law, and the powerful can't use their power to hide their own misdeeds or that of their friends and benefactors.
Not what i said, don’t care about the people involved in this, only the movement and the ideas. Dont get me wrong, i am pro-immigration, but not pro-illegal immigration.
>"I don't care if my leaders literally fuck children as long as they enact my favorite policies."
I don't know why you're downvoted because in all honesty, this is the tradeoff the American right made. Trump has been credibly accused of rape, both of an adult woman and a child.
To even remotely consider such a leader electable and not completely rebel is to affirm that raping kids is not so bad, as long as your political agendas are carried out. Tariffs, limiting immigration, etc.
So, what's the point? If your society can't protect children, the most vulnerable members of society, why not shut it all down?
This is why the ongoing swing to the right across the West will ultimately fail. They have no morals. They ultimately care about who's bribing or cajoling them at the moment. No strong principles.
That's why they'll condemn the Pakistani rape gangs (deservedly so - should be shot, if it were up to me) but condone men like Trump. They'll mourn the death of Charlie Kirk, while funding the murder of kids in Palestine. They'll try to cajole & manipulate other countries into buying from America, while putting tariffs on them. They'll complain about economic decline without having difficult conversations about cutting entitlements in places like France where pensioners earn more than median workers.
It's all but guaranteed that the Right will rise to power across the West, but when their jingoist fuel runs out, they'll ultimately fall on their faces because they spend more energy making memes about annexing Greenland, based Hyperborea, or how we're so back, than focusing on building a sustainable, honest, humble country.
