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In the meantime, in real world nuclear decommissioning currently increases the dependence on fossil fuels, and so every nuclear plant decommissioned in practice has a significant cost in lost lives from fossil fuels.

E.g. Germany's rush towards decommissioning after Fukushima has had a massively detrimental effect in Europe for this reason.

The death toll as a direct result of fearmongering against nuclear is by this point likely to be far larger than the total death toll of all nuclear incidents. If we hadn't had nuclear in first place, the cost in lives lost to other forms of plants would have been far greater than that again.



Yeah, it's a crazy decision resulting from "green groups'" radiophobia after Fukushima.

The government official estimated cost of shutting down all German nuclear plants is 55 billion Euros over the next decade. Although the (frankly more credible) 'unofficial' estimate puts the cost at 250 billion euros over the next decade.

Not to mention the fact it's resulted in their co2 emissions increasing in both 2015 and 2016 (https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-greenhou...). This also means increased deaths from air pollution. The German environment ministry now predicts they will probably not make their 2020 co2 reductions targets.

So other than the enormous cost, increased co2 emissions, and needless human deaths, good policy.

EDIT: And as for the whole "let's just replace everything with wind and solar", I'm not sure people fully appreciate what will be involved. In Germany's case, on a monthly basis, their wind plants manage an average capacity factor of ~20% (std. dev. 7.65 percentage points) and their solar plants manage an average capacity factor of ~10% (std. dev. of 6.41 percentage points). They have had months where solar only managed a measly 2% cap factor and wind 11%.

So let's say demand is 1TW/hr per month. This means they need to build about 11 times that in nameplate solar capacity, or around 5-6 times that in nameplate wind. So you also need to build 11/6 times the transmission infrastructure. And even then you will still have random blackouts due to the high variance in generation, so you also have to spend a bunch of money on grid-level storage.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f1a6d064890d67fbfc98d66dbd...


> E.g. Germany's rush towards decommissioning after Fukushima has had a massively detrimental effect in Europe for this reason.

This says that German emissions from electricity generation were down, but that was offset by heating increases from a cold winter and emissions from increased good transportation:

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/germany-reiterates-g20-...


Two problems with this:

1) you can not look at Germany in isolation. You need to take into account the import/export market. Decommissioning nuclear plants at a faster schedule substantially altered that, which affected other countries dependency on fossil fuels.

2) Germany is to their credit aggressively trying to get rid of its fossil fuel dependency, but the decommissioning of nuclear meant they needed to offset a significant shortfall. To the extent that hole was plugged by new clean energy capacity, that meant delaying decommissioning of far more lethal coal plants.

Until fossil fuels is at 0, decommissioning nuclear is bad policy.


This seems to indicate that German electricity exports are actually up:

https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/press-media/news/2016/germa...


See point 2. In other words: They'd be up far more if the nuclear hadn't been removed, which still has the same effect of killing people.

As I said before: Until there is 0 fossil fuels, taking nuclear offline kills people by delaying fossil decommissioning.




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